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Start Date: Saturday, January 1, 1972 3:57 PM

End Date: Saturday, January 1, 1972 4:19 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:00:57

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:22:24

017-125.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:57 am to 11:19 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 017-125 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 17-125
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Date: January 1, 1972
Time: 10:57 am - 11:19 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 311-14]


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[Privacy]
[Duration: 9s ]


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     Kissinger's location

     World developments
         -Newspapers
         -Malta
               -Dominic Mintoff
                   -Call to the President
                   -Call to Robert F. Ellsworth
                   -British
                   -Libya
                         -Potential economic problems
                   -Ellsworth
                   -Deadline
                   -Edward R.G. Heath
                   -Message from the President
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India
        -Indira Gandhi
              -Parliament
                    -Similarities to the Hawks
                    -Foreign aid
        -Kissinger’s view
        -John Freeman's talk with Henry Brandon
              -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] and Pakistan
                    -1967
        -Communist Party
              -USSR influence
                    -Supposed strength
        -East Bengal
        -Pakistan
              -Similar problems
                    -Lack of food and a strong government
        -Calcutta and Dacca
              -Martial law enactor
        -Bangladesh
              -Bhutan and India
                    -Recognition
              -US position
              -People’s Republic of China [PRC] comparisons
                    -Tibet and unknown name
              -USSR, India, and Bhutan
              -US Consul in Dacca
              -Kenneth B. Keating

India

Vietnam
     -Bombings
     -Prisoners of War [POWs]
           -Close to “moment of truth”
     -Press
     -POW wives
     -President's upcoming interview with Dan Rather
           -Potential questions
     -POWs
           -North Vietnamese
           -US negotiating offers
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      -Kissinger's comments to POW wives
            -Plea from POWs
            -American surrender
                  -Administration’s commitment
      -Wives
            -Patriotism
-Polls
-Support for war in US
-Australian Ambassador's comments to Kissinger
-Stance on war
      -President’s stance
            -More “Hawkish”
      -November 1969
-Cambodia
-Air strikes
-US elections
      -US casualties
      -US involvement
-Kissinger’s view
      -Gauging US public reaction
            -Air strikes in Vietnam
            -The war
                  -US media
            -Air power
                  -Duration
            -Vietnam
            -Polls
            -US perception on Vietnam War
                  -Size potential of issue
                        -Negative
                  -Louis Harris
                  -George H. Gallup
                        -Potential response from Democrats
-Amount of USSR military aid per year
-US bombing of Vietnam
-Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu
      -Possible overthrow
            -Timing
-President's conversation with Kissinger, December 31, 1972
      -June 1972
-Administration’s attempt to remove Vietnam issue from public debate
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      -Duration
-Bombing halt
      -Political move
      -Hubert H. Humphrey
            -Election of 1968
-US foreign policy
      -Vietnam
-Moscow Summit
      -Timing
-President’s schedule
-The President's next Vietnam announcement
      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
      -Humphrey's announcement
      -New Hampshire's delegations letter
-Thieu
-US peace program
      -Affect in Asia
            -Thailand
-President's next Vietnam announcement
      -Timing
-Date of Humphrey's announcement
-US peace program
      -Bunker
      -Thieu
-New Hampshire
-Congress convenes
      -Opportunity to make Vietnam announcement
-State of the Union Address
-President's insistence to discuss Vietnam before State of the Union Address
      -Kissinger’s view
      -Response of North Vietnamese negotiators
            -Reaction
-President's PRC trip
-Negotiations
-State of the Union address
      -Timing of announcement
      -Haldeman
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 16s ]


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          -Planning date of President's upcoming Vietnam announcement
               -Between January 10 and 20th
          -Thieu's reaction to peace proposal
               -President’s view
          -Factors included in peace proposal
               -Curtail of military aid
               -South Vietnam foreign policy
                      -Neutrality