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Conversation: 020-003

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Start Date: Monday, January 31, 1972 7:34 PM

End Date: Monday, January 31, 1972 7:42 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ribicoff, Abraham A.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:01:11

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:09:51

020-003.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Abraham A. Ribicoff talked on the telephone from 2:34 pm to 2:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 020-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 20-3

Date: January 31, 1972
Time: 2:34 pm - 2:42 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Abraham A. Ribicoff.

[See Conversation No. 661-1B]

     Greetings

     Ribicoff's comments on welfare reform
          -President's commitment to reform

     Welfare reform bill
          -Congressional problems
                -President's view
                      -Advice of Ribicoff
                      -Budget problem
                      -Russell B. Long
                      -Wallace F. Bennett
                      -The President’s possible meeting with Long, Bennett, and Ribicoff
                            -Possibility of common ground
                -Ribicoff's view
                      -Finance Committee attitude
                            -Possibility of common ground
                            -Bennett
                                  -Support for the President
                                  -Influence on others
                                        -Carl T. Curtis
                                        -Paul J. Fannin
                            -Herman E. Talmadge's stance
                            -Harry F. Byrd Jr.'s stance
                      -Ribicoff’s talk with Elliot L. Richardson, January 31, 1972
                            -Protest against expensive programs
                            -Ribicoff’s speech
                            -Medicare and Medicaid
                      -Addition of working poor to welfare program
                            -Number
                            -Cost
                            -Reaction by Congress
                               3

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                      Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. 10/06)



      -Present program
            -Effective date
            -1973 budget maneuvers
                  -Ribicoff’s conversation with Richardson
                        -Pilot program
      -Testing of new program
            -Benefits
            -Options
                  -Savings
                  -Workability
            -Effect in Finance Committee
                  -Results
      -Remainder of President's bill
            -Family Assistance Plan [FAP]
                  -Debate on floor
                        -Results
                              -House Resolution [HR] 1
-Possibility of meeting with Long, Bennett, and Ribicoff
-The President’s schedule
      -Recent meeting with Richardson
            -Cancer program
-Confrontation in committee
      -Results
-Ribicoff view
      -Pilot program for working poor
            -Results in Finance Committee
                  -Bennett, Long, and Ribicoff
      -Floor maneuvers
            -Results
                  -House of Representatives
                        -HR 1
            -Ribicoff amendments
      -Working poor inclusion
            -Results
-Ribicoff’s possible meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
      -Strategy discussion
      -Richardson
-President's position
      -Necessity
      -Ribicoff's speech
            -The President’s news summary note
            -Results
                                              4

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)



                      -Benefits of talk
                      -Ribicoff’s possible meeting with Ehrlichman and Richardson
                      -Long’s and Bennett’s opinion
                -Ribicoff view
                      -Welfare poor pilot program
                           -Editorials
                           -Ribicoff constituency view
                                 -Connecticut
                -Ehrlichman meeting
                -The President’s possible talk with Ribicoff