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Start Date: 11-Apr-1972 7:41 PM

End Date: 11-Apr-1972 7:54 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:19:21

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:31:45

022-111.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 7:41 pm to 7:54 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-111 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 22-111
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Date: April 11, 1972
Time: 7:41 pm - 7:54 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Kissinger’s location

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s meeting with Irini Dobrynin
          -Gift
          -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
          -Vietnam
                -Message

     Vietnam
          -Melvin R. Laird
               -B-52 strikes
          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
               -Forthcoming trip to Southeast Asia
                     -Length of trip
                           -Talk with Kissinger
          -John B. Connally
               -Previous talk with the President
                     -Talk with Armand Hammer
                           -Message to the President
                                -Advice concerning Russians
                     -Blockade
          -US activity
               -Russian ships
                     -Aircraft
                     -Submarines
                           -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer’s instructions
          -Blockade
               -The President’s view
                     -Timing
                     -Necessity
                     -Prisoners of war [POWs] for withdrawal deadline
                     -Election
                     -Public response
          -Moorer
               -Previous talk with Kissinger
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     -Briefing of Congressmen
            -Report on Congress’s mood
                  -Compared to 1967
                  -Laos
                  -Son Tay raid
                  -Cambodia
                  -Support for administration
-Max Frankel
     -Previous talk with Kissinger
            -Support for Administration
            -Interest in Israel
-The President’s strategy
     -Haig’s comment
     -Kissinger’s views
-North Vietnamese tanks
     -Washington Star report
            -Destruction
            -B-52s
            -Haig’s report
            -South Vietnamese responsibility
            -B-52s
                  -Capabilities
            -Military Region One [MR1]
-Results of the war
     -The President’s view
     -Honor of US and its military establishment
     -Support of Congress
            -Moorer’s report
-Forthcoming briefing
     -Attendance
            -Moorer
            -Laird
            -Kissinger
            -William P. Rogers
     -Kissinger’s handling of briefing
            -Moorer
            -Laird
            -Length
     -Rogers
            -Negotiations
            -Presence at briefing
            -Moorer
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                 -Laird
           -Laird
                 -Presence
                 -Vietnamization
                       -Cambodia
                       -Saigon
     -Tactical aircraft [TACAIR]
     -The president’s instructions to Moorer
           -Ship deployment
                 -Distance to Hanoi
                 -Current movement
                 -Haiphong
     -Air strikes
           -TACAIR
                 -Weather
           -B-52s
           -Moorer arrival
                 -Statement
           -Weather
                 -Clearance
           -North Vietnamese trucks
                 -Hanoi
                 -Destruction
                       -TACAIRr
                            -Capabilities
           -Timing
                 -Connally’s advice
                       -Public opinion
     -[David] Kenneth Rush
     -State Department
           -Communication with Kissinger
           -Kissinger’s view
           -William H. Sullivan
           -Washington Special Action Group [WSAG]
     -Frankel
           -Synchronization
           -Comments on the President’s policies

Foreign policy
     -Dobrynin
     -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
          -Michael J. Mansfield and Hugh Scott
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     Kissinger’s schedule

     Vietnam
          -Air strikes
                -Public response
                      -The President’s talk with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                           -Polls
                                 -Influence
                -Democrats’ response
                      -Edward M. Kennedy
                      -Hubert H. Humphrey
                           -Connally observation
                      -Kennedy
                      -George S. McGovern
          -The President’s instructions to Moorer
                -Ships and planes
                      -B-3 area
                           -Naval attacks