Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 24 › Conversation 024-070

Kissinger & Dobrynin on US-Soviet relations and Trade negotiations

Wednesday, May 10, 1972 · 4:25 PM–4:45 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.; Dobrynin, Anatoliy F.Conversation024-070 on Tape 24 (tape position 01:21:37–01:22:50)StartWednesday, May 10, 1972 at 4:25 PMEndWednesday, May 10, 1972 at 4:45 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 024-070 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 646314456 ↗

AI Summary

Henry Kissinger and Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin coordinated a meeting between President Nixon and the Soviet Trade Minister to address commercial matters. The two officials confirmed the logistics for the upcoming discussion, specifying that Dobrynin would accompany the Minister to the White House. Kissinger also instructed Dobrynin to keep certain discussed principles confidential while permitting them to be reported internally within the Soviet government.

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NARA Description

On May 10, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Anatoliy F. Dobrynin talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:25 pm and 4:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-070 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 24-70

Date: May 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:25 pm and 4:45 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin.

[See also Conversation No. 337-28/339-1B]

     Greetings

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Soviet Trade Minister
               -Time
               -Participants
               -Subjects
               -Time
               -Location
               -Subjects
               -Entry to White House
               -Discussion
                      -Release

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Hello.

Mr. Kissinger?

Yeah.

Ambassador Dobrynin.

Anatole?

Yes.

How are you?

Good.

The President would be delighted to see your Trade Minister at the

10 o'clock tomorrow morning.

Right.

Thank you very much.

And of course we expect you to come along.

Thank you very much.

And the subjects will be exactly as you and I discussed.

Fine.

So 10 a.m. 10 a.m. at the White House and we'll discuss only commercial matters.

And we will go out as usual through the... Come in through the front, you know, the way you come in to my office.

Okay.

okay through the lobby yes yes through the northwest gate yes okay and I've also mentioned that issue of that principle and I think we can handle it in the way you and I discussed it okay so could I already report it yes okay I think it will be better okay I think you can report it in that sense but let's keep it between us for the time being okay thank you very much thank you

Also recorded on May 10, 1972

024-066 3:55 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 3:59 pm.
337-025 3:55 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 3:59 pm.
024-067 3:59 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 3:59 pm to 4:00 pm.
337-027 3:59 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:59 pm and 4:00 pm.
024-068 4:04 PM · 27 sec — Charles W. Colson, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:25 pm.
337-028 4:04 PM · 1 hr 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, unknown person(s), H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, and Arthur F. Burns met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 5:45 pm.
339-001 4:04 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:04 pm to 5:45 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 024-070, May 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 646314456). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-070 (accessed November 8, 2026).