Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 25 › Conversation 025-013

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Presidential travel

Tuesday, June 6, 1972 · 12:26 PM–12:27 PM ET · White House Telephone · 18 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation025-013 on Tape 25 (tape position 00:50:01–00:50:49)StartTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 12:26 PMEndTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 12:27 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 025-013 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417193649 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and his wife, Pat, discussed his upcoming travel plans. The conversation focused on the President's potential trip to Texas for the Rotary Convention and a commitment to John Connally, weighing the logistics of his schedule against the possibility of joining his wife at Camp David. They considered alternative travel arrangements to accommodate these commitments.

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NARA Description

On June 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 12:26 pm to 12:27 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 25-13

Date: June 6, 1972
Time: 12:26 pm - 12:27 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.
[See Conversation No. 340-20]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/25/2017.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[025-013-w001]
[Duration: 46s]

     President’s upcoming plans
          -Trip to Camp David
                -Possibility of joining Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
          -President’s possible trip to Houston for the Rotary Convention

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NixonThe only possibility, of course, is this thing I have to do in Texas for John Connally on Friday.
NixonYeah.
NixonIf I don't go on Friday, but go on Saturday morning, I could come out—or Friday afternoon, I could come up with you on Thursday night, come back Friday morning and then go down Friday afternoon, see?
NixonYeah, but wait, then what would you do Friday night?
NixonFriday night I'd go to Texas. I have to go to John Connally's Friday night.
NixonUh-huh. Well, the only thing about that, Dick, is that that's a lot of running around.
NixonThat's right. That's right.
NixonAnd maybe you'd be better just to go, and, uh—
NixonWell, the other thing is if we don't go to John Connally's Friday, which we may not—I mean, they may not have it Friday, in which case I won't go until Saturday, see? So I could come up Friday.
NixonYeah.
NixonI could come up Friday, then fly to Texas Saturday and come back Saturday night, you see?
NixonMm-hm.
NixonSo, whatever it is—
NixonWell, are you definitely going to Texas for that, uh, convention?

Also recorded on June 6, 1972

  • 025-014 12:17 PM · 14 min — unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:17 pm and 1:42 pm.
  • 025-012 12:23 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 12:36 pm.
  • 340-019 12:23 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 12:26 pm.
  • 340-020 12:26 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:26 pm to 12:27 pm.
  • 340-021 12:27 PM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 1:47 pm.
  • 340-022 12:27 PM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 1:41 pm.
  • 340-023 12:27 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 1:41 pm.
  • 340-024 12:27 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 1:41 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 025-013, June 6, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417193649). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-013 (accessed November 9, 2026).