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Start Date: Tuesday, December 5, 1972 12:51 AM

End Date: Tuesday, December 5, 1972 1:02 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kennedy, Richard T. (Col.)

Recording Device: White House Telephone

034-011.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Col. Richard T. Kennedy talked on the telephone from 7:51 pm to 8:02 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 34-11

Date: December 4, 1972
Time: 7:51 pm - 8:02 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Col. Richard T. Kennedy.

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Report from Paris
                  -Length
            -Tone
            -Henry A. Kissinger’s view
                  -Possible break off
                  -North Vietnamese
                        -Possible strategy
                              -US difficulty with Saigon, domestic front
                              -October 8, 1972
                  -US stance on political issues
                        -“Administrative structure” [of National Council of National
                         Reconciliation and Concord], [NCRC]
                              -Vietnamese translation
                        -North Vietnamese legal right to intervention in South Vietnam
                        -North Vietnam’s possible dropping of requests concerning civilian
                         prisoners and US civilian personnel in South Vietnam
                        -South Vietnam
                        -Domestic front
                        -NCRC
                              -Structure [governmental compared to administrative]
                                     -Possible US claim
                                           -Translation
                  -US stance on military issues
                        -Attempt by North Vietnam to ratify presence in South Vietnam
                               -11-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Dec.-07)

                                                Conversation No. 34-11 (cont’d)

-Possible Response
       -Message
            -US stance
                  -Possible break off
                  -Saigon
                  -Domestic
                  -Nguyen Van Thieu
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
       -Conversation with Kennedy
-Kissinger’s conversation with People’s Republic of China [PRC] ambassador in
 Paris
-Possible break off
       -Explanation for record
            -North Vietnam intransigence compared to US insistence on changes
                  -Kissinger’s view
                         -Presidential statement
            -Presidential statement
                  -The President’s view
                         -Previous statements on November 3, 1969, Cambodia,
                          May 8, 1972
                               -Changes
                         -US bombing
                               -Television [TV]
 -Continuation
       -Narrowing proposals
 -Message to Kissinger
       -TV statement on US bombing
 -Resumption
       -Timing
 -Possible break off
       -North Vietnam deceit
       -TV statement
            -Domestic front
                  -Press
            -Bombing
 -Report from Paris
                                             -12-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Dec.-07)