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Start Date: Sunday, December 17, 1972 3:49 PM

End Date: Sunday, December 17, 1972 4:11 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

034-114.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:49 am to 11:11 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-114 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 34-114

Date: December 17, 1972
Time: 10:49 am - 11:11 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Alice Roosevelt Longworth dinner
             -Guest list
                  -Kissinger
                  -Joseph W. Alsop and [Susan Mary Jay (Patten) Alsop]
                  -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                  -Howard K. Smith
                  -William F. Buckley, Jr.
                  -Stuart J. O. Alsop
                  -Richard L. Wilson
                  -William S. White
                  -Wilson
                         -Stephen B. Bull
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Dec.-07)

                                                       Conversation No. 34-114 (cont’d)


Vietnam negotiations
     -Letter for Nguyen Van Thieu
            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
            -The President’s reading
            -Haig’s schedule
            -Tone
            -The President’s reading
                   -Church service
                   -Cabinet dinner, December 16, 1972
                   -Return to Kissinger
     -Kissinger briefing, December 16, 1972
            -Settlement prospects
            -Hanoi reaction
                   -Paris delegation
            -Press coverage
            -Radio coverage
                   -Charles W. Colson
            -Television [TV]
                   -Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Press coverage
                   -The New York Times
                         -Kissinger’s demeanor
                                -Compared to Kissinger’s October 26, 1972 briefing
                                -The President’s press conferences
                                     -Dan Rather
     -[US bombing]
            -Timing
                   -Christmas
                   -1973 Inauguration
                   -Congress
                         -December 18, 1972
     -Settlement prospects
            -Intelligence report
                   -People’s Republic of China [PRC] official
                         -Pressure on Hanoi
            -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin’s recent conversation with Kissinger
                   -Hanoi’s conversations with Soviet Union
                         -Settlement timing
                                -1973 Inauguration
                                -92-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Dec.-07)

                                                 Conversation No. 34-114 (cont’d)

                       -October 26, 1972 draft
-US bombing
     -Hanoi’s possible reactions
           -Enforceability of agreement
     -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
     -[David] Kenneth Rush
     -Civilians
     -Weather
           -B-52s
           -Precision bombing
                  -Power plant in Hanoi
           -Intelligence
                  -Cancellations
     -The President’s recent conversation with William P. Clements, Jr.
           -Aircraft
                  -Types, cost
     -Air strikes
           -Cancellations
                  -Dry season
           -B-52s
                  -Bomb load
                        -Compared to World War II
                  -Effect
                        -Hanoi
                        -Compared to Saigon area, 155s
           -Targets
                  -Power plants
                  -Marshalling yards
                  -Shipyards in Haiphong
                  -Railyards
                  -Radio Hanoi
                        -Transmitters
                  -Power plant in Hanoi
                        -Moorer
           -Aircraft
           -Reaction
                  -US
           -Ziegler
                  -Enemy offensive
-Le Duc Tho
                               -93-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Dec.-07)

                                               Conversation No. 34-114 (cont’d)

      -Messages
            -Schedule
            -Timing
            -November 23, 1972
            -Removal of “administrative structure”
-Cabinet
      -Sub-cabinet
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
      -Recommendations
            -Congress, Thieu
            -US bombing
            -Thieu
                   -Haig
-Thieu
      -US commitments
            -Presidential meetings, letters
            -November 1972
                   -Sovereignty
      -Haig’s letter
-US option [bi-lateral deal]
      -Timing
            -January 1973
      -Thieu
            -Possible collapse
      -Possible perception
            -Defeatism
            -Military and economic aid
                   -Thieu letter
            -US military withdrawal for Prisoners of War [POWs]
                   -George S. McGovern
                   -Michael J. Mansfield
                   -Separation of military and political issues
                         -October 8, 1972
      -Vietnamization
      -Thieu
            -POWs
-US bombing
      -North Vietnamese reaction
            -US reaction
                   -Media
                                     -94-

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. Dec.-07)

                                                 Conversation No. 34-114 (cont’d)

                    -1972 election
     -North Vietnam
          -PRC pressure
                -Compared to Soviet Union
                -US note
                       -Reply
                -Intelligence
     -Thieu
          -Reaction to Kissinger briefing
                -Radio
                -Collapse of talks
                       -Resumption
                            -Haig letter
     -Two party military commission
          -Communists’ intention
                -Cadres
          -Press coverage
          -Thieu
                -November 1972
     -Thieu
          -Relationship with the President
                -Nguyen Phu Duc meetings, November 29, 1972
                -Midway meetings invitation
          -Haig letter
                -Tone
     -US bombing
          -Reaction
          -Timing
          -Effect
                -Enforceability of agreement
                -Regional countries
          -1972 election

Longworth dinner
    -Timing
    -Black tie
    -Joseph Alsop
                                                       -95-

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                              Tape Subject Log
                                                (rev. Dec.-07)