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Start Date: Thursday, December 28, 1972 1:14 AM

End Date: Thursday, December 28, 1972 1:33 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

035-017.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 8:14 pm to 8:33 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 35-17

Date: December 27, 1972
Time: 8:14 pm - 8:33 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

       The President's schedule
            -Harry S. Truman's death
                  -The President’s paying of respects
                         -Television [TV] coverage
                         -Timing
                         -Absence of Presidential-public statement
                               -Truman family request for private funeral
                         -Demeanor
                         -Tone
                         -Photographs
                         -Media coverage
                               -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
                                     -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                                     -Lyndon B. Johnson and family

       US bombing of North Vietnam
            -News coverage
                  -Truman’s death
            -Public attitude
                  -Disappointment
                  -Truman’s death
                         -The President’s paying of respects
                              -Lack of demonstrators
                  -Colson’s telephone conversations
                  -William F. (“Billy”) Graham's views
                         -Graham's association with the administration
                              -“War Hawk”
            -Colson’s recent conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
                  -Effects of Kissinger's conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                  -Press contacts
                  -Colson’s message to Haldeman
                  -Kissinger’s conversation with Colson
                                      -19-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                       Conversation No. 35-17 (cont’d)

           -Status quo
                  -Return of Congress
     -Public attitude
           -Neutrality
           -Albert E. Sindlinger
                  -Poll information
                         -Timing
                              -Christmas
                         -Support for bombing
                              -Increases
                              -“Doves”
                              -Increases
           -Status quo
                  -Colson’s recent conversation with Kissinger

Congressional relations
     -Democratic Whip position
     -House Majority Leader
           -Thomas P. (“Tip”) O'Neill
     -O'Neill
           -Democratic partisanship
           -Relationship with Colson
           -Possible successor
     -Robert C. Byrd
           -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] appearance
                 -Vietnam War special
           -Re-election efforts
           -Support for the President
           -Briefing from William H. Sullivan
     -Robert P. Griffin
           -Briefing
     -Hugh Scott
           -Colson’s view
     -Colson’s recent conversations with William E. Timmons and John A. Scali
     -Colson’s efforts
     -Reaction to US bombing of North Vietnam
           -Quiescence
     -Edward M. Kennedy
           -Statement
     -Michael J. Mansfield
                                     -20-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                    Conversation No. 35-17 (cont’d)

          -Statement
                -Timing
     -Congressional recess
          -Vacations

Prisoners of War [POWs]
      -Story
      -Robert J. Dole
            -The President’s view
            -Bryce N. Harlow
            -Colson’s view
            -Schedule
                  -Florida

US bombing of North Vietnam
     -Public attitude
           -Colson’s telephone conversations
                  -New Majority
                  -Appointments by administration
                  -Colson’s “book”
                  -The President’s constituency
                       -Possible worry
           -W. Richard Howard’s telephone conversations

National economy
     -Herbert Stein
           -Economic briefing
                 -Tone
                       -Colson’s view
     -Gross National Product [GNP]
           -Revised figures
                 -Increases
                 -1972 election
                 -Aid to administration
     -Briefing by Stein
           -Tone

National issues
     -Economy
     -Football
                                     -21-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                       Conversation No. 35-17 (cont’d)

      -Administration appointments
      -Robert Q. Marston
            -Washington press coverage
            -National Institute of Health [NIH]
                   -Views of scientific community
                          -George S. McGovern
                   -Political leaning
                          -Colson’s relative
            -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
                   -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
      -Peter J. Brennan
            -Rowland Evans and Robert Novak column
                   -Labor Department
                          -Photographs of the President
                                -George P. Shultz
                                -James N. Hodgson
                                -John F. Kennedy photographs
                                -Lyndon B. Johnson photographs
                   -Brennan’s effect on Washington bureaucracy
                          -Effect
                                -Establishment
            -Wall Street Journal
            -Victor Riesel column
            -Activities
                   -Effect
            -Compared to Martin P. Durkin
                   -Evans and Novak, Wall Street Journal columns
                          -Tone
                   -Relationship with the President
                          -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                   -Support for Adlai E. Stevenson, II
                   -Brennan’s support for the President
                          -1972 campaign
                                -Labor committee
                   -New Majority
                          -Evans and Novak column
            -Relationship with press

CBS
      -The President's conversation with Gerald L. Warren
                                       -22-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                         Conversation No. 35-17 (cont’d)

           -Possible policies affecting CBS
      -The President conversation with Patrick J. Buchanan
           -Buchanan's lunch with William Small
      -Worry
           -Relationship with the administration
      -Colson’s view

Cable TV
     -The President’s view
     -Effect on the networks
           -CBS
           -Establishment
     -Benefit to public

Life magazine
      -Final issue
            -1972 photographs
            -Thomas F. Eagleton
            -McGovern
            -Edward S. Muskie
            -Coverage of the President
                   -The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC] and the
                    Soviet Union
                   -Election
                         -New Majority
            -Colson’s view
                   -Establishment
            -Public interest
            -The President’s potential survival

John A. Volpe
     -Ambassadorship to Italy
           -Italian-American reaction
                  -Colson’s view
                  -Scali
                         -United Nations [UN] appointment
                  -Secretary of Transportation
                  -Colson’s conversation with Volpe
           -Volpe’s reaction
                  -Italian-American reaction
                                             -23-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                            Conversation No. 35-17 (cont’d)


       Blair House receptions
             -New Majority
                  -Response
                        -Compared to White House parties, church services, receptions
                        -Letters to Colson
                              -Numbers
                        -Tone
                        -Compared to the National Business Council for Consumer Affairs

       Maurice H. Stans
            -Campaign contributors
                  -Members of National Business Council for Consumer Affairs
                        -List

       Blair House receptions
             -Response
             -1973 Inaugural receptions
                  -Degree of formality
                        -Black ties
                              -Wives
                              -Compared to white tie