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Start Date: Wednesday, January 3, 1973 2:44 AM

End Date: Wednesday, January 3, 1973 3:00 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

035-069.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 9:44 pm to 10:00 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-069 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 35-69

Date: January 2, 1973
Time: 9:44 pm - 10:00 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

       Henry A. Kissinger
            -Recent meeting with the President
                  -Kissinger’s mood
                         -Colson and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                               -Forthcoming meeting
                  -Newspaper articles [of James B. (“Scotty”) Reston and Joseph C. Kraft]
                         -Effect on Kissinger
                         -Crosby S. Noyes
                         -Stewart J. O. Alsop
                         -Tone
                         -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
                         -Tone
                               -The President
                         -The President's relationship with Kissinger
            -Recent meeting with the President
                  -Kissinger’s morale
            -Sensitivity
                  -Role in negotiations
                         -Forthcoming trip to Paris
                               -The President’s instructions
                                      -63-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                          Conversation No. 35-69 (cont’d)

     -Forthcoming meeting with Haldeman and Colson
     -Recent meeting with the President
           -Duration
                -Instructions for Ronald L. Ziegler
     -Forthcoming meeting with Haldeman and Colson

Vietnam negotiations
     -Congressional relations
          -House of Representatives resolution
                 -Effect
                       -US withdrawal for Prisoners of War [POWs]
                              -North Vietnamese position
                                   -Foothold in South Vietnam
          -US aid to South Vietnam
                 -Cut off of aid
                       -The President’s resistance
                              -US public opinion

Kissinger
      -Forthcoming meeting with Haldeman and Colson
      -Kissinger’s schedule
            -Forthcoming trip to Paris, January 7, 1973

Vietnam negotiations
     -The President's schedule
     -Meeting with Kissinger, William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird, Adm. Thomas H.
      Moorer and Richard M. Helms, January 4, 1973
           -Memorial service for [Thomas] Hale Boggs
           -Announcement
                 -Timing
           -Purpose
                 -Solidarity
           -Recent and forthcoming meetings with Kissinger
                 -Statement
           -Bipartisan leadership meeting, January 5, 1973
                 -The President’s comments
                       -Sensitivity of talks
                       -Forthcoming reports to Congress
                             -Timing
     -Kissinger and Colson’s forthcoming meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                                     -64-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                      Conversation No. 35-69 (cont’d)


Roberto Clemente's death
     -Press coverage
     -White House statement
           -Timing
           -Richard A. Moore
     -Funeral
           -Daniel M. Galbreath
                 -Trip to Puerto Rico
                       -Dale Galbreath
                       -Group [Roberto Clemente Memorial Fund]
     -Anastasio Somoza Debayle
           -Trip to Nicaragua
     -Roberto Clemente Memorial Fund
           -The President’s role
                 -Press relations

George E. Allen’s [in-laws] [Mr. and Mrs. Felix Lumbrosso]
     -White House tour
     -Washington, DC
     -Duration
           -Press coverage

Congressional relations

Stock market
     -Dow Jones industrial average
           -Current figure
           -Reaction to Vietnam Peace
           -Effect on Congress
     -State of economy
           -Bullish signs
                 -Press coverage
                       -News magazines

Congressional relations
     -Democrats
           -John B. Connally
           -Postions on spending, government programs, end of Vietnam War
                 -Reaction of country
                                      -65-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                          Conversation No. 35-69 (cont’d)


The President's schedule
     -Michael J. Mansfield
     -Carl B. Albert
     -Bipartisan leadership meeting
     -Freshman Congressman reception
     -Harry S. Truman’s memorial service
           -John A. Scali’s view
           -Private memorial service in Independence, Missouri
           -Dean Francis B. Sayre
           -Ronald L. Ziegler
                  -Gerald L. Warren
           -Forthcoming conversation with the President
                  -Recent conversation with Colson
           -Private memorial service
                  -Lyndon B. Johnson's attendance
           -Criticism
     -Vietnam War
     -Congressional relations

Albert E. Sindlinger
     -Recent conversation with W. Richard Howard
     -Polls
            -Procedures over holidays
                  -Public awareness of issues
            -Public awareness of issues
                  -Sports
                  -National economy
                        -Retails spending over holidays
                        -Politics

National economy
     -Retail spending over holidays
           -Effect on Gross National Product [GNP]
                 -Fourth quarter
     -Unemployment figures
           -Predictions
           -Effect
                 -Public awareness
           -Bipartisanship leadership meeting
                                            -66-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct.-07)

                                                             Conversation No. 35-69 (cont’d)

           -Effect on nation
                 -Compared to Vietnam War
                       -Mansfield
                       -Congress
                       -“Doves”
                       -Press
                       -Paris negotiations
                       -Sindlinger poll

      Vietnam negotiations
           -Congressional relations
                -Colson’s recent conversation with William E. Timmons
                       -J. William Fulbright
                              -Possible hearings or end the war legislation
                                    -Timing
                                          -1973 Inauguration
                -Administration failure or success
                       -Political ramifications
                -House Democratic Caucus
                       -End the war legislation
                              -January 2, 1973
                                    -Republican support for administration
                                          -Future vote
                                          -George S. McGovern
                -Possible resolution supporting the President
                       -Colson’s possible conversation with Gerald R. Ford
                       -Republican Caucus, January 3, 1973
                       -Timmons
                       -House of Representatives
                -Forthcoming report to Congress
                       -Timing