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Start Date: Saturday, January 20, 1973 6:04 AM

End Date: Saturday, January 20, 1973 6:46 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

036-018.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 1:04 am to 1:46 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 036-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 36-18

Date: January 20, 1973
Time: 1:04 am - 1:46 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

       1973 Inaugural concerts
            -American heritage concert
            -Symphony
                  -Pyotr Tchaikovsky
                  -1812 Overture
                  -Eugene Ormandy
                  -Edvard Grieg


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

            -The President’s view
                 -The President’s early piano instructions

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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            -American heritage concert
                  -Patricia Colson
                  -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
                        -Performance
                  -Roger Williams
                  -Vicki Carr
                        -Length
            -Philadelphia Orchestra
                  -Ormandy National
                  -Washington Symphony
                        -Antal Dorati
            -Compared to previous inaugurations
                  -Ormandy
                                    -11-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Jul-08)

                                                    Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

          -Cliburn
                 -Orica
          -1812 Overture
                 -Los Angeles Chorus
                 -Valley Forge Military Band
     -Colson’s attendance
          -Frank F. Fitzsimmons
          -Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW)
          -Peter J. Brennan

1973 Inauguration
     -Supporters’ attendance
           -Relatives
           -“New Majority”
           -Frank L. Rizzo
           -Brennan
     -Labor reception
           -Attendance
     -Corcoran Gallery event
           -Ethnic concert
           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox
     -Youth concert
     -American heritage concert
     -Labor events
           -George Meany
           -Brennan, Fitzsimmons
           -Paul Hall
     -Parade
           -Labor union leaders
           -Viewing stand
           -Photographs
                  -VFW New Orleans
                       -Patrick E. Carr
                  -Review of bands
           -Veterans leaders
           -“New Majority”

Public opinion
      -Crosby S. Noyes
                                     -12-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Jul-08)

                                                      Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

     -Newbold (“Newby”) Noyes, Jr.
          -The President’s view
     -Colson’s conversation with Richard M. Scammon
          -Potential leadership
          -Bombing

Vietnam settlement
     -Peace agreement
     -Bombing
           -Duration
     -Negotiations
     -Nguyen Van Thieu
     -Henry A. Kissinger
           -Negotiation efforts
     -Mood of the nation
           -Colson’s view
     -Hugh Scott
           -Statement of support
                 -Democrats
     -Colson’s role
     -Thieu
     -Return of Prisoners of War [POWs]
     -Cease-fire
     -Survival of Thieu government
     -Peace and honor

The Washington Post report
     -Mood of country

1973 Inauguration events
     -Youth concert
           -Mike Curb’s statement
     -Vice President’s reception
           -Colson’s attendance
     -Parade
           -Supporters meeting with the President
           -Stephen B. Bull
           -Brennan

Brennan
                                        -13-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Jul-08)

                                                     Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

        -Senate confirmation hearings
             -The President’s view
             -Albert E. Sindlinger
             -Harold E. Hughes
             -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Cabinet
                   -James Durkin
             -Edward M. Kennedy
                   -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
                          -Minority hearing
             -Press stories
             -Colson’s view
             -Harold L. Ickes

The President’s 1973 Inaugural speech
     -The President’s philosophy
           -Foreign policy
           -Domestic policy
           -Newbold Noyes’s views
           -Government policy
           -Nixon Doctrine
           -Colson’s view
           -Scammon’s view
           -Sindlinger
                 -Economy

Vietnam settlement
     -Bombing
           -The President’s view
                -Media
     -Negotiations
           -Colson’s view
                -The President’s accomplishment
                       -Kissinger

Polls
        -North Vietnam
        -Bombing
             -Louis P. Harris
             -Sindlinger
             -Related questions
                                    -14-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Jul-08)

                                                      Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

     -Timing of release
     -Colson’s conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
     -Bombing results
          -Effect on negotiations
     -Thieu
          -Prospects for future
          -Kissinger

Vietnam settlement
     -National mood
     -Charles McC Mathias, Jr.
     -William B. Saxbe
     -The President’s opponents
           -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
     -Bombing
           -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] news
           -Hospitals
           -Gary Hart
           -W. Ramsey Clark
                 -World War II bombing
                        -Harry S. Truman
                             -Atomic bomb
                 -Korean War bombing
     -Colson’s staff
           -Morale
           -Kenneth W. Clawson
           -William J. Baroody, Jr.
           -Patrick J. Buchanan

Buchanan’s book
     -Colson’s view

Demonstrators
    -Hall
    -Teamsters
    -Jay Lovestone
          -[First name unknown] Kramer

Scammon
    -National economy
                                         -15-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Jul-08)

                                                     Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

        -The President’s opponents
             -Blacks, poor
             -New Left
             -Intellectuals
             -Homosexuals

Rizzo
        -Participation at 1973 Inauguration events
              -Colson’s view
              -John B. Connally
        -Support for bombing

Vietnam settlement
     -Bombing
           -Labor union support
           -Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason
                -Australia
                       -Ship boycott
                -Australian Prime Minister
                       -[Edward] Gough Whitlam
                       -Support for American policies
                -Canada, Sweden
     -Brennan
     -Statements by Barry M. Goldwater, John C. Stennis
     -Thieu
     -Bombing
           -The President’s May 8, 1972 speech
     -Vietnam settlement
     -The President’s speech, January 25, 1972
           -Reaction
     -The President’s opponents
           -Colson’s view
           -The President’s view
                -Treasonable

Busing court order
     -Prince George’s County, Maryland
           -Reaction
     -Gilbert Gude
           -Montgomery County, Maryland
                                                -16-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jul-08)

                                                            Conversation No. 36-18 (cont’d)

                        -Left-wing Jews
             -Lawrence J. Hogan and Marjorie Holt

       National economy
            -Stock prices
                  -Washington Post

       1973 Inaugural parade
            -Colson’s role
            -Participant’s to reviewing stand

       1973 Inaugural speech
            -Colson’s view
            -Length of speech