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Start Date: Sunday, March 11, 1973 9:19 PM

End Date: Sunday, March 11, 1973 9:51 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

037-093.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 4:19 pm to 4:51 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-093 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 37-93

Date: March 11, 1973
Time: 4:19 pm-4:51 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

        Colson's trip to Israel and Romania
               -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
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                             Tape Subject Log
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                                                      Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


      -Impression of Jewish people
             -American Jews
             -Discipline
             -Israeli nationalism
             -Anti-communism
      -President’s stature
             -Communists

             -Romanians
                     -Meetings with leaders
                     -Souvenirs
             -Israel
                     -President’s popularity
                     -American Jewish support for President
                             -1972 election
      -Colson's appreciation
             -Donald H. Segretti
             -Watergate
             -World view
             -Travel as education
      -Nicolae Ceausescu
             -Admiration for President
             -Previous meetings with President
             -Television [TV] appearance for Colson
             -Ceausescu’s political prowess

Watergate
      -Washington Post reporting
            -Herbert W. Kalmbach
            -Dwight L. Chapin
      -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
            -Hearings
            -Ralph Flanders
            -Damage to the White House
            -John W. Dean, III
                    -Court ruling
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


                     -L. Patrick Gray III
-Ervin hearings
       -Court ruling
               -Dean
               -Lawyer-client privilege
               -Executive privilege
-Testimony by White House aides
       -Haldeman
       -John D. Ehrlichman
       -Colson
       -Chapin
-Separation of powers
       -Avoidance of cover-up
               -Public stand
-Gray
       -Paris Herald Tribune
       -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] raw files
               -American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU]
               -Effect on FBI
       -Aid to President's image
-Washington Post article
       -Demonstrators
               -Peace groups
               -Conventions
                       -San Francisco
                       -Los Angeles
       -Double standard
-Washington Star
       -Vance Hartke
               -Misuse of funds
               -Bob Walters
       -Campaign practices
-Dean's investigation
       -Non-White House personnel
-Colson's role
-Benjamin C. Bradlee
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


                    -National Press Club debate
                    -Donald R. Larrabee
                           -Donna L. Larrabee
                                   -Republican National Committee [RNC]

     President's crime radio address
            -Richard G. Kleindienst
            -President's role in drafting
                     -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
                             -Rehabilitation
                     -Mandatory sentencing
                             -William P. Rogers
                                    -Sudan
                                            -Killing of diplomats
                                                    -Death penalty
                                    -Sirhan Sirhan
            -Public opinion
            -Hijacking
            -Assault on John C. Stennis
                     -Albert E. Sindlinger poll
            -Judges, probation officers
                     -Second offenders
                             -Compassion
            -Press coverage

     Amnesty
           -Judges
           -Spiro T. Agnew's speech
           -Prisoners of War [POW] reaction
                  -Public opinion
                  -[First name unknown] Kessler
                  -Reaction to peace protestors


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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Sept-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

                            -George S. McGovern
                            -Gridiron speech

       Martin Z. Agronsky TV show
              -Watergate
              -Marquis Childs
                     -Future elections
                     -New Republican Majority
                            -Racism

       Democratic Party
            -Control by McGovern supporters
            -Robert S. Strauss
            -House of Representatives Democratic Caucus
                    -Rules changes
                    -Open rule
                    -Seniority system
                    -Effect
            -Clarence J. (“Bud”) Brown, Jr.
                    -Southern Democrats
                            -Age
                            -Support for President
            -Alaska Election
                    -Donald E. Young
                            -Support for President
                    -Democratic Candidate
                            -Emil Notti
                            -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
            -1957 election
            -1956 election
                    -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s victory
                    -Democratic winner

              Polls
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                                                       Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


                    -President’s support

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      Domestic issues
            -Food prices
                    -Possibility of price freeze
                            -Future effect
                    -President’s strategy
            -Federal spending
                    -Taxes
                    -Congress’ position
                            -Compassion issue
                    -Poll
                            -Rowland Evans
                            -Robert D. Novak
                            -St. Louis
                            -Support for President
            -Harris Poll
                    -Headstart program
                    -Education
                    -Aid to the poor
            -Taxes
                    -Urban renewal
                    -Public opinion
                    -Framing of issue
                            -Ehrlichman
            -Social programs
                    -Popular support
                            -Medicare, education aid
                            -Northeast
                    -Peter J. Brennan
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Sept-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


Colson's law firm
       -Moving
               -Federal Bar Building
               -American Institute of Architects' Building
       -Staff
               -Political affiliation
       -David Shapiro
               -Strauss
       -Henry C. Cashen, II
       -Former Commerce Department lawyers
               -Nixon, Mudge, Rose, Guthrie, Alexander, and Mitchell
               -Fred Louder
       -Time constraints
               -Client relations
               -Aid to President
       -Washington Post
               -Lawsuit
               -Discussion with Walter H. Annenberg
                       -London
                       -Katherine L. Graham
               -World influence
                       -Effect of Paris Herald Tribune
               -Possible formulas for take-over
                       -Bid for purchase
                       -Shapiro
                       -Graham
                       -Stock price
                       -Appeal to stockholders
                       -American Stock Exchange
                                -Necessary assets
                                -Line of credit
               -Richard M. Scaife
                       -Personality
                       -Confidentiality
               -Annenberg
               -Possible buyers
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Sept-09)

                                                         Conversation No. 37-93 (cont’d)


                            -Maurice H. Stans
                            -Combine
                    -Harris Poll
                            -Support for President
              -Kenneth W. Clawson
                    -Benign neglect
                    -Congress
                    -Governors

       TV networks
             -William F. Buckley, Jr.
                    -Column on Clay T. (“Tom”) Whitehead proposal
                    -Conservative support
                           -Accuracy in Media advertising [AIM]

       President’s advice
              -Legal fees
              -Clark M. Clifford
                      -Golf