Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 37 › Conversation 037-120

Nixon phone call with Bull on Max M. Fisher and Donald E. Young

Thursday, March 15, 1973 · 2:48 PM–2:49 PM ET · White House Telephone · 51 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation037-120 on Tape 37StartThursday, March 15, 1973 at 2:48 PMEndThursday, March 15, 1973 at 2:49 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 037-120 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417195373 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to finalize the scheduling and attendance details for his upcoming meetings. They confirmed that Congressman Donald E. Young and Lucy Ferguson would follow a meeting with Max M. Fisher, with Nixon approving the request for Leonard Garment to join the discussion with Fisher. Finally, the President directed that these meetings be held in his office rather than the Oval Office.

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NARA Description

On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:48 pm to 2:49 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-120 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 37-120

Date: March 15, 1973
Time: 2:48 pm-2:49 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 416-41]

       President's schedule
              -Meetings
                      -Max M. Fisher
                      -Donald E. Young
                             -Alaska Congressman
                      -Lucy Ferguson
                      -Leonard Garment
                             -John D. Ehrlichman [?]
                      -Location
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

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Yeah.
Yes, sir, Steve, what is it that we had right after Max?
Right after Max is Congressman Young, the new Alaskan congressman.
Oh, yeah, fine.
Max is at 3 o'clock.
Lucy Ferguson, just a couple of minutes before.
Oh, yeah, there's something there, too, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
Max would like Len Garment to sit in on that meeting.
Harlequin recommends it, too, sir.
Anybody he wants, yeah.
Fine.
Mm-hmm.
Will you be returning the Oval Office, sir?
Or do you want to do the rest of the street?
No, I'll do them over there, yeah.
All right, sir, fine.
I'll do them over there.
Okay.
All right, thank you.

Also recorded on March 15, 1973

  • 416-041 2:48 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:48 pm to 2:49 pm.
  • 880-012 2:53 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 880-013 2:55 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:55 pm and 2:59 pm.
  • 880-014 2:55 PM · 56 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Lucy Ferguson, John Ferguson, Donald Williams, Mrs. Donald Williams, Jeanette Williams, Mark Williams, Jonathan Williams, Diane Jordan, Shelby Jordan, Kim Jordan, Leonard Garment, Max M. Fisher, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:55 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 410-015 2:58 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:58 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 410-016 2:58 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:58 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 410-017 2:58 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:58 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 410-018 2:58 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:58 pm and 3:02 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 037-120, March 15, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417195373). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-120 (accessed November 5, 2026).