Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 37 › Conversation 037-181

Nixon phone call with Bull on George P. Shultz and John V. Brennan

Tuesday, March 20, 1973 · 7:58 PM–7:59 PM ET · White House Telephone · 30 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation037-181 on Tape 37StartTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 7:58 PMEndTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 7:59 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 037-181 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417195491 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with Stephen B. Bull to ascertain the specific arrival time of George P. Shultz in Washington, D.C. on the following Thursday. Bull confirmed he was coordinating with John V. Brennan to retrieve these travel details. Nixon directed Bull to abandon the immediate search and follow up the next morning if the information remained unavailable.

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NARA Description

On March 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 7:58 pm to 7:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-181 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 37-181

Date: March 20, 1973
Time: Between 7:58 pm-7:59 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

[See Conversation No. 422-12]

       George P. Shultz's schedule
             -John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
             -Arrival in Washington, DC

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Yeah.
I have Mr. Bull for you now.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
I'm trying to get this information from Brennan.
He may have it already.
What time Schultz arrives back Thursday?
It's Thursday evening.
I can find out the...
I'll tell you, I've got Jack Brennan working on it.
You forget it, and we'll check in the morning in case he doesn't have it, okay?
All right, sir.
Fine.
Thank you.
Thank you.

Also recorded on March 20, 1973

  • 037-178 7:48 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:48 pm.
  • 037-180 7:52 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone from 7:52 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 422-009 7:52 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:52 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 422-010 7:53 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 7:53 pm.
  • 422-011 7:53 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 7:58 pm.
  • 422-012 7:58 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:58 pm to 7:59 pm.
  • 037-182 8:07 PM · 54 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone from 8:07 pm to 8:08 pm.
  • 422-013 8:07 PM · 54 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, John V. Brennan, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:07 pm to 8:08 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 037-181, March 20, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417195491). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-181 (accessed October 29, 2026).