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Start Date: 13-Apr-1973 6:16 PM
End Date: 13-Apr-1973 6:31 PM
Participants:Ehrlichman, John D.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);
Recording Device: White House Telephone
On April 13, 1973, John D. Ehrlichman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 6:16 pm to 6:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 38-12 Date: April 13, 1973 Time: 6:16 pm - 6:31 pm Location: White House Telephone John D. Ehrlichman talked with the President. Ehrlichman’s meeting with unknown people [Charles Colson and David Shapiro (?)] -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.’s forthcoming grand jury testimony -William D. Bittman -Kenneth W. Parkinson, Paul L. O’Brien -Mrs. Dorothy Hunt -Motives -Ervin Committee -John N. Mitchell -Charles W. Colson -New York Grand Jury -Indictment -Robert L. Vesco -Daniel W. Hofgren -Washington, DC Grand Jury -[First name unknown] Klein -Contributions for government contracts -Shapiro’s interview with Hunt -Hunt’s meeting with G. Gordon Liddy -Mitchell’s orders -Liddy’s expectation of pardon -John W. Dean, III’s advice -Effect of Hunt’s forthcoming testimony -Possible White House actions -Removal of Dean -Colson -9- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. January-2011) Conversation No. 38-12 (cont’d) -Shapiro’s recommendations -Executive privilege and criminal conduct -Statement by Ehrlichman, Richard G. Kleindienst -Need for President to know evidence -Ehrlichman -Fred F. Fielding -US Attorney -Advice to Liddy -Pardon -Effect of President’s actions -Colson -Hunt -James W. McCord, Jr.’s conversation with US Attorney -Break-in of Herman M. (“Hank”) Greenspun’s safe -Hunt -Colson -Mitchell -Effect of Hunt’s forthcoming testimony Content of testimony -Possible pardon for Liddy -Mitchell -Shapiro -Pardon -Ervin Committee hearings -Insanity plea -Martha (Beall) Mitchell -Two grand juries -Hunt -Dean’s forthcoming testimony -Hunt -Mitchell and Jeb Stuart Magruder -Testimony -Effect on White House -Magruder -Telephone conversation with Lawrence M. Higby -Illegal recording -Dean, Gordon C. Strachan -Mitchell -Meeting with President -Effect of Liddy’s and Hunt’s possible testimony -10- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. January-2011) Conversation No. 38-12 (cont’d) Colson -Hunt’s possible testimony -Shapiro -Bittman -Hunt’s desire for pardon -Hunt’s possible testimony Shapiro