Nixon White House TapesTape 38 › Conversation 038-067

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on White House administration

Monday, April 16, 1973 · 3:25 PM–3:26 PM ET · White House Telephone ·12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation038-067 onTape 38StartMonday, April 16, 1973 at 3:25 PMEndMonday, April 16, 1973 at 3:26 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-067 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief telephone conversation to inquire about the status of an undisclosed, pending matter. Ziegler informed the President that he was currently in transit and would arrive at his location within five minutes to provide a briefing. The exchange served primarily as a logistical check-in to coordinate a forthcoming update on an ongoing issue.

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Yeah.
Yes, sir, Mr. President.
Have you made any progress on that thing?
How's it stand?
We'll be there in five minutes.

On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:25 pm to 3:26 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-067 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-67

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: 3:25 pm - 3:26 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler

[See also Conversation No. 427-5]

     Progress
          Ziegler’s schedule
  • 038-066 3:25 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:25 pm.
  • 427-003 3:25 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:25 pm.
  • 427-004 3:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:25 pm.
  • 427-005 3:25 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:26 pm.
  • 427-006 3:27 PM · 28 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:27 pm to 4:04 pm.
  • 038-068 4:04 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:04 pm.
  • 038-069 4:04 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John W. Dean, III talked on the telephone from 4:04 pm to 4:05 pm.
  • 427-007 4:04 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 4:04 pm.

Conversation 038-067, April 16, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-067 (accessed September 18, 2026).