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Start Date: Tuesday, April 17, 1973 1:58 AM

End Date: Tuesday, April 17, 1973 2:14 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Petersen, Henry E.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

038-082.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone from 8:58 pm to 9:14 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-082 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 38-82

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: 8:58 pm -9:14 pm
Location: White House Telephone
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. January-2011)

                                                                Conversation No. 38-82 (cont’d)

The President talked with Henry E. Petersen.

[See also Conversation No. 427-17]

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared Richard Nixon’s Special
White House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of
the House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded
Presidential Conversations (SRPC), pages 966-979 (1-14). Please refer to the logging below.]

     Petersen’s schedule

     Watergate      

          -Information for President        

          -Frederick C. LaRue         

                -Paul L. O’Brien        

                -Conversation with John N. Mitchell 

                -Budget meeting with Mitchell       

                      -John W. Dean III
                      -Mitchell’s actions      

          -O’Brien       

          -Gordon C. Strachan         

                -Lawyer (Charles W. Colson’s law partner)
          -LaRue
                -Conversation with Mitchell
                -John D. Ehrlichman
                -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy’s June 19, 1972 confession to Dean
                -Ehrlichman’s knowledge
                -Advice to E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
                -Colson and Dean
          -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Mitchell’s conversation with Dean concerning Herbert W. Kalmbach
                -Authority from Haldeman
          -Petersen’s negotiations with Jeb Stuart Magruder
                -Lawyers’ concern         

                      -John J. Sirica       

                      -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.      

                      -Jail     

                -Harold H. Titus, Jr.
          -Charges
                -Haldeman and Ehrlichman as unindicted co- conspirators
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. January-2011)

                                                              Conversation No. 38-82 (cont’d)

                       -Need for corroboration
                       -Procedures
                       -Mitchell
                       -Sirica’s interrogation of defendants
                             -Magruder        

                                    -Haldeman and Ehrlichman        

           -Dean       

                 -Possible immunity         

                       -Corroboration of testimony        

           -Strachan       

           -Dean’s story on Liddy 

                 -Conversation with Ehrlichman concerning Liddy’s June 19, 1972 statement
                 -Conversation with President
                       -Contrasted with conversations with Earl J. Silbert
           -Haldeman
                 -Authority for Dean to contact Kalmbach
                       -Mitchell’s order

The President conferred with an unknown person at an unknown time between 8:58 and 9:14
pm.

[Begin conferral]

     Greetings

[End conferral]

     Watergate
          -$350,000       

               -Haldeman’s control        

               -Use by LaRue        

                     -Maurice H. Stans’s committee       

               -Possible statement by President     

               -Ron Ostrow’s call to Petersen 

                     Los Angeles Times
                     -Report on White House staff      

                            -Source     

          -Charles Colson       

               -Presence during Ehrlichman’s order to Hunt

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                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. January-2011)