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Start Date: 3-Jun-1973 6:07 PM

End Date: 3-Jun-1973 6:36 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

039-037.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 3, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 6:07 pm to 6:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-037 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 39-37

Date: June 3, 1973
Time: 6:07 pm - 6:36 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

       Watergate        

             -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.’s forthcoming meeting with Hugh Scott 

                     -Ervin Committee hearings            

             -Press relations        

                     -Leaks to columnists          

                     -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson           

                     -John W. Dean, III          

                             -Credibility
             -Spiro T. Agnew’s possible speech 

                     -Patrick J. Buchanan

                     -Ervin Committee hearings            

             -Dean story, June 3
             -President’s previous meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
             -Ziegler’s contacts with Haldeman
             -Dean
                     -Statements concerning meetings with President
                     -Meetings with and calls from President
                             -Number and timing
                             -Subjects discussed
                                     -Press conference
                             -President’s call on Easter
                                     -Nature of remarks
                                     -Ziegler
                                     -Content
                             -Contacts with President
                                     -Personal nature
                                     -Attorney-client relationship
                                     -Meeting, April 16
                             -Immunity
                                     -President’s conversations with Henry E. Petersen
                             -32-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                      Tape Subject Log
                     (rev. February-2011)

                                              Conversation No. 39-37 (cont’d)

       -Meetings with President             

               -President’s orders            

                       -Cover-up activities           

               -March 21
                       -William O. Bittman’s demand
                       -Haldeman
                       -President’s reaction
                       -Possible clemency
-Ziegler’s and Buzhardt’s knowledge
-Haldeman’s findings
-Dean
       -Statement         

               -Taping of telephone calls           

               -White House sources             

                       -Richard A. Moore and Leonard Garment
                                  -Likelihood
       -Files       

               -Copying              

               -Access

                       -Haldeman’s statements
                       -Ziegler’s possible telephone call to Buzhardt
               -Copying
               -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s access
       -Statements          

               -Effect          

                       -Popular opinion           

       -Credibility
               -Haldeman’s and John D. Ehrlichman’s forthcoming testimony
               -White House response
       -Ziegler’s meeting, June 3             

               -Wilson’s column

               -Scott         

               -Possible content of leaks to press 

       -Files       

               -Access

               -Copying              

               -Contents            

                       -Chronologies, memoranda of conversations [memcons]
                            -33-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                     Tape Subject Log
                    (rev. February-2011)

                                             Conversation No. 39-37 (cont’d)

             -Access
             -Contents
                    -President’s meetings
                    -Compared with Ehrlichman, Haldeman and John N.
                     Mitchell
             -Access

                    -Tenure         

                    -Haig         

      -Statement       

             -Timing        

                    -Ervin Committee          

             -White House response
                    -President’s meeting with Haldeman
                    -Meeting between President, Dean, and Haldeman, March
                     21 

             -Meetings with President         

                    -April 16         

                            -National security        

                    -Number
                            -Attorney-client relationship
                            -Garment
             -Telephone calls from President         

             -Immunity         

                    -President’s motives           

             -Meetings with President         

                    -President’s orders         

                            -Possible testimony         

      -Meeting with President, March 21 

             -President’s reaction

                    -Justice Department           

                            -Role
                    -Ehrlichman’s investigation
                    -Conversation with Petersen
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
      -Forthcoming testimony
      -Haldeman’s recap
      -Reaction to White House staff members
             -Buzhardt and Garment
                               -34-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                       (rev. February-2011)

                                                  Conversation No. 39-37 (cont’d)

                       -Loyalty to President         

                               -Haig, Ziegler        

                       -John J. Wilson         

                               -Anti-Semitism          

       -White House treatment compared with Dean’s

               -Access to papers          

                       -Buzhardt, Garment

-Access to papers
       -Procedures
       -Possible effect of release
       -Compared with Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters’s memoranda of
        conversation [memcons]
-White House response
       -Leaks to columnists
       -Press briefings
               -Ziegler’s previous conversation with Haig         

       -Gerald L. Warren

       -Ziegler’s schedule         

       -Personnel appointments, Vietnam            

       -Ziegler’s role

       -Herbert G. Klein announcement            

       -Changes in Ziegler’s role            

               -Haig’s opinon           

       -Melvin R. Laird, Warren             

       -Klein announcement            

               -Communications Office, Office of Press Secretary
                       -Ziegler’s role
       -Laird announcement
               -Haig’s assessment
-Dean
       -Statements         

               -Motive         

               -Content          

               -White House response           

                       -Chronologies
                               -Bipartisan Congressional leadership [?]
                       -Bryce N. Harlow and Laird
-White House response
                                               -35-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                              Conversation No. 39-37 (cont’d)

                      -Ziegler, Haig, Garment, and Buzhardt