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Conversation: 040-003

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Start Date: Monday, June 11, 1973 3:05 AM

End Date: Monday, June 11, 1973 3:35 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

040-003.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 11:05 pm to 11:35 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 040-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 40-3

Date: June 10, 1973
Time: 11:05 pm - 11:35 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

     President’s schedule       

           -Florida      

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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. March-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

      -Economics        

      -Vietnam negotiations         

            -Paris    

      -Leonid I. Brezhnev       


Press relations
      -Television [TV]
      -Print
      -Soviet summit
      -Economic controls

President’s visit to Florida
      -[Florida Technical] University
      -Melvin R. Laird and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
            -Roles on White House staff 

            -Significance        

                   -President’s influence    

            -Laird’s return to the White House staff 


Watergate
     -New York Times
     -Colson’s interviews
          -Dan Rather         

                 -[First name unknown] Sargent           

          -Garrick Utley        

                 -Howard K. Smith            

          -President’s knowledge           

          -Colson’s anger         

     -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. Committee hearings 

          -Possible appearance by Colson          

          -President’s attention         

          -Maurice H. Stans         

          -Jeb Stuart Magruder           

          -John W. Dean, III         

          -Colson         

          -Dean        

                 -Transactional immunity        

                 -Use immunity         

                 -Fifth Amendment            

                        -Effect
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. March-2011)

                                                     Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

           -Use immunity
                 -Consequences
-Dean
      -Attack on Charles R. Richey
            -Reason         

      -Picture in New York Times, June 10 

      -Antagonists        

            -Colson          

            -Dean       

            -John D. Ehrlichman          

-New York Times stories
      -Missing files        

            -Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.           

            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman               

      -Colson’s interview        

            -Possible warning to President concerning John N. Mitchell 

            -President’s knowledge            

                   -Mitchell and senior aides
            -President’s views concerning campaign committee
            -Radio and TV coverage
                   -Mitchell       

                   -Dean       

-Colson
      -Interviews
      -Knowledge
-President’s knowledge
-Colson
      -Interviews       

            -Conversations with President           

            -President’s desire for full disclosure    

      -Ervin Committee hearings           

            -Possible appearance         

            -Interviews with staff

            -Subpoena of files        

                   -White House files           

            -Brookings Institution          

            -Colson’s place on witness list          

                   -Reason
-Ervin Committee
      -Targets
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. March-2011)

                                                   Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

            -President, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell      

            -Haldeman, Mitchell            

      -Mitchell       

            -Possible testimony          

      -Privilege or immunity           

            -Mitchell           

            -Magruder’s possible testimony       

            -Dean       

                  -Possible transactional immunity from Archibald Cox
                  -Use immunity
-Dean
      -Statements
      -Approach
            -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]      

            -Brookings Institution            

            -Daniel Ellsberg case           

            -Reasons          

      -Possible deal with prosecutors
-Ervin Committee hearings
      -Cox’s views on television
      -Possible effect on trials
            -Mitchell, Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Dean
-Colson
      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC] interview
            -President’s involvement
-Dean
      -Attorneys’ statements           

            -Memoranda            

            -Tapes        

                  -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
      -Possession of documents
            -Leaks
-Ervin Committee
      -Colson’s interview with staff

            -Effects        

            -Samuel Dash           

            -Staff’s reaction        

      -Prospects
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s statement, June 10
      -Forthcoming Brezhnev Summit
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. March-2011)

                                                  Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

             -Possible Ervin Committee testimony of Mitchell, Haldeman, and
               Ehrlichman
       -New York Times
       -Reaction of Colson’s friends in Middleburg
       -Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Mitchell appearances before Ervin Committee
             -Brezhnev
-White House response
       -National economy
       -Brezhnev
       -Energy
             -Gasoline shortage           

       -Economy         

       -Foreign affairs       

       -Effect on Watergate           

       -President’s role        

       -Colson’s role       

       -Haldeman’s role           

       -Ehrlichman’s role           

-Colson’s conversations
       -Robert J. Dole
             -Colson’s mail
       -Smith, American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
             -Dole’s mail
                    -Watergate          

             -June 10 “Meet the Press” appearance 

             -Congressional attitude          

-Attacks on President
       -TV networks, New York Times, Washington Post
       -Hugh Scott’s statement
-Jackson
       -Foreign policy views
             -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] and Jewish policy
       -Statement concerning Brezhnev, June 10 

             -Effect      

             -J. William Fulbright          

       -White House response
-Popular opinion
-Dole
       -Statements
-Scott
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. March-2011)

                                                  Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

      -Statement
-Dean
      -Allegations concerning President
      -Role in White House
      -Conversations concerning the President
            -Time        

            -Content          

                   -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Mitchell    

      -Credibility       

            -Washington Post, New York Times, TV networks 

            -Image         

            -White House portrayal        

                   -Desire for immunity
                   -Fifth Amendment
                   -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Mitchell
-Colson
      -Smith interview
      -Calls from press
            -Reason          

      -New York Times story coverage 

            -TV networks          

      -Invitation from “Face the Nation” 

            -Withdrawal         

      -New York Times story, June 10 

            -Effect on President, Mitchell     

            -Chris Leyden [sp?]       

-Popular opinion
      -Newspapers
      -Mail
      -Colson’s conversation with Albert E. Sindlinger
            -Poll results
-Jackson’s statement
      -White House response
-Colson’s actions
-Jackson’s statement
      -President’s handling
-Ervin, Colson, Dean, Dash, Cox
-President’s position
-Dean
      -Actions
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. March-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 40-3 (cont’d)

                 -Compared to James W. McCord, Jr. 

                 -Possible immunity      

                 -Image      

                       -New York Times image, June 10 

                 -Role in White House      

                       -Knowledge