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Conversation 041-024

TapeTape 41StartThursday, June 21, 1973 at 3:55 PMEndThursday, June 21, 1973 at 4:08 PMParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.;  Fulbright, J. WilliamRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

Henry Kissinger contacts Senator J. William Fulbright to request the rescheduling of a planned 5:00 p.m. meeting with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to the following morning. Kissinger explains that postponing the session would allow him to provide a more comprehensive briefing once ongoing negotiations conclude. Fulbright agrees to consult his staff, specifically Carl Marcy, to determine if the committee members can be notified and rescheduled on such short notice. They agree that if rescheduling proves impossible, Kissinger will proceed with the original afternoon meeting as planned.

Senate Foreign Relations CommitteeLegislative-Executive relationsSchedulingBriefingDiplomatic negotiations
AudioNARA Description

On June 21, 1973, Henry A. Kissinger and J. William Fulbright talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 4:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-024 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 41-24

Date: June 21, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:55 pm and 4:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with J. William Fulbright.

[See also Conversation No. 447-31B]

     Kissinger’s schedule
           -Fulbright and Senators
                 -Time and location
                       -Postponement
                       -Discussions at the White House
                             Notification of committee member
                 -Fulbright’s forthcoming call to Carl Marcy [Chief of Staff, Senate Foreign
                  Relations Committee]
                       -Return telephone call to Kissinger
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Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello?
Hello?
Mr. Chairman?
Yes, Ernie.
Oh, pretty good.
I'm supposed to meet with your colleagues and you at 5 o'clock.
Correct.
I was wondering whether there was any chance, I know we talked about it once before, of moving it to 8.30 in the morning.
I'll tell you, there are two reasons.
We are still in the middle of some discussions here.
Yeah.
Secondly, I could give you a really complete wrap-up and some advance information at 8.30 tomorrow that I couldn't do tonight.
And I wondered whether there was any chance of doing that.
I'd be glad to invite you all here for breakfast, but I'd be also happy to meet on your ground.
Well, of course, I don't know whether we can get in touch with them.
It's just late date or not.
That's the major problem of whether they can do it or not.
that's the only problem is just the physical problem i guess you want to have somebody checked in the next 20 minutes or so i better call you back and if it isn't possible and i'll meet wherever you say at 8 30. well let me first you you cannot do it this afternoon well look if it's a question of i'd prefer i'd much prefer to do it
I understand that, but I'm not pushing you.
I just want to understand what the ground rules are.
Well, the problem is, with a big effort, I can make it today, but it would really jam me up in some of the talks that are still going on.
And frankly, I'd have to leave one area open while tomorrow I could cover the whole week and give you a complete picture.
I think it'd be more useful to your committee tomorrow.
My problem is just getting in the word to him.
I mean, you see, it's not easy at this hour.
But if you can't...
I'll have to call Marcy and see, and then I'll...
If you can't do it, Mr. Chairman, then call me back within half an hour and I'll come.
What's your number there?
What's the White House number?
Yeah, it's 1440... 1414.
1414.
Well, let me get a hold of Marcy and see what he says about it.
He'd have to, this business of getting, you know, getting notice to him and all that.
I understand that.
And also canceling him today.
I mean, if he says, well, he doesn't see how you get... Well, then I'll come.
You want to come anyway if he can't, if it's not feasible in the moment.
Well, because I couldn't come then for another two and a half weeks if I don't come today.
Well, let me call him and get him underway, and then we'll call you back.
Good, Mr. Chairman.
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