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Conversation: 050-001

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Start Date: 9-Mar-1971 8:05 AM

End Date: 9-Mar-1971 9:43 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Hardin, Clifford M.Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)Scott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Smith, Margaret ChaseCotton, NorrisAllott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Ford, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Anderson, John B.Stafford, Robert T.Poff, Richard H.Rhodes, John J.Conable, Barber B., Jr.Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Smith, H. AllenDole, Robert J.Shultz, George P.Ehrlichman, John D.MacGregor, ClarkTimmons, William E.Klein, Herbert G.BeLieu, Kenneth E.Buchanan, Patrick J.Dent, Harry S.Ziegler, Ronald L.Harlow, Bryce N.Price, John R., Jr.Harper, Edwin L.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

050a.mp3

050b.mp3

050c.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Republican Congressional Leaders, including Clifford M. Hardin, Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Robert T. Stafford, Richard H. Poff, John J. Rhodes, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, H. Allen Smith, Robert J. Dole, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth E. BeLieu, Patrick J. Buchanan, Harry S. Dent, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, John R. Price, Jr., and Edwin L. Harper, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 8:05 am to 9:43 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 050-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 50-1

Date: March 9, 1971
Time: 8:05 am - 9:43 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Clifford M. Hardin, Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, Hugh Scott, Robert P.
Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Gerald R.
Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Robert T. Stafford, Richard H. Poff, John J. Rhodes,
Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, H. Allen Smith, Robert J. Dole, George P.
Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth
E. BeLieu, Patrick J. Buchanan, Harry S. Dent, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, John R.
Price, Jr., and Edwin L. Harper

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

     Rural America
          -Revenue sharing
          -Importance
                -Des Moines
                -Hardin
          -Problems
          -Population shift
                -Boston, Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, San Diego
                -Effect
          -Development
                -Federal budget increase
                      -Compared with urban development
          -Griffin, Scott
          -Importance

     Agenda
         -Rural America presentation
         -Southeast Asia
              -Moorer

     An amendment

     President’s schedule
          -Address to Iowa legislature
                -Response
          -Future trip to Rochester
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        -Worship services, March 7, 1971
        -The South
        -Rochester
        -Des Moines
             -Response
                   -Local
                   -Kansas City and Washington coverage
             -President’s speech to the Iowa legislature
             -President’s conversations with governor’s representatives and Congressmen
                   -John H. Kyl
             -Advance work
             -President’s speech to legislature
                   -Media coverage

Hardin
     -Meeting with governors of Illinois, Missouri, Wisconsin, and Iowa
          -Previous meeting in Springfield, Illinois
     -Meeting with farm journalists and radio and television representatives
          -Philadelphia
          -Importance of radio
     -Meeting with Maurice H. Stans, George W. Romney, [Forename unknown]
          Wharton, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Jack Miller, Kyl, and [Name unintelligible]
          -Prior meeting with President
     -Meeting with media representatives
          -Possible effect
     -Kansas City media representatives

Stans
        -Minneapolis-St. Paul

Wharton
    -Denver

Rumsfeld
    -Memphis

Romney
    -Washington meetings

Cabinet activities
     -Speeches, media appearances
     -Hardin
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          -Kansas City
     -Effect

Rural America
     -Development
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
          -Lyndon B. Johnson administration
     -Compared with urban development
     -Productivity
     -Defined
          -New England
                 -Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Boston
                        -M. C. Smith, Cotton
          -Delaware, Pennsylvania, Southern Illinois
          -Michigan
                 -Detroit
                 -Grand Rapids
          -California Central Valley
                 -Fresno, Bakersfield
                        -Importance
          -Colorado
     -Importance of President’s policies
     -Problems
     -Growth centers
     -Income
          -Compared with urban income
     -Ability of states
     -Federal involvement
          -Department of Agriculture
          -Revenue sharing
          -Extension Service
          -Department of Commerce
                 -Economic Development Administration [EDA]
          -Department of Agriculture
                 -Agricultural Conservation Program [ACP]
                 -Great Plains Program
                 -Grants
                 -Forest Service
          -Budgetary
          -Relationship with states
          -ACP
          -Extension Service
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          -Services
          -Employees
-Charts
     -Des Moines
     -Fargo
     -Population shifts
     -Prior briefing for Senate Agriculture and Public Works Committee
           -Carl T. Curtis
     -Relation between urban and rural areas
           -New York, Iowa
     -Population shifts
           -Upper Michigan peninsula
           -Population
           -Reasons
           -Appalachia, Great Plains, Rocky Mountain states
           -Reasons
-Development
     -Past efforts
           -EDA
           -Appalachian Commission
           -Title V regions commissions
           -Upper Midwest
           -EDA
           -Evaluation of Cabinet committee
     -Future efforts
           -Growth centers
     -Funding
           -James D. Hodgson
           -Grants
           -Federal/state
-Charts
     -Explanation
     -Des Moines
-Development
     -Defined
     -Needs
           -Transportation
           -Housing
     -Water and sewer programs
           -Federal level
                 -Farmers’ Home Administration
                 -Department of Housing and Urban Development programs
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          -EDA
          -Appalachian Commission
-Education
-Manpower
-Health services and education
      -President’s recent message
-Welfare
-Transportation
      -President’s forthcoming message
-Environmental programs
      -President’s budgetary proposals
      -Land use
-Housing
-Expected effects
-Current programs
      -Funding
      -Title V, EDA, Appalachian Commission, educational and environmental
            programs
-Funding
      -Use
      -Model cities, urban renewal
      -Amount
      -Benefits
      -Basis
            -Population
            -Income
      -Restrictions
-History
      -Agricultural experiment stations
      -Centers for excellence
            -Cornell
            -University of Wisconsin
            -University of California
      -World War II-era funding
            -Effects
-Ability of states
-Revenue sharing
      -Formula
      -Priorities
      -Possible effect on taxes
-State and regional plans
      -Appalachian area
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                -Problems
                      -North Dakota
                -Distribution
                -Accountability
                      -Governors
                      -State legislatures
                      -Cities and counties
                      -Prior meetings

Congress
    -Upcoming issues
         -Rules
               -Cloture
                     -Miller amendment
                     -Frank F. Church, James B. Pearson
         -Constitutional amendment lowering voting age
         -Milton R. Young
               -Appropriations hearings
                     -Russell B. Long
         -Interest equalization extension
         -Wage and price control authority extension
         -Credit authority
               -Secretary of Treasury’s testimony
         -Department of Transportation appropriation
               -Supersonic transport [SST]
                     -Vote
                     -Importance
                     -Tokyo - San Francisco
                     -Argentina - Miami
               -Opposition
                     -Compared with building of first airplane, Valley Forge
                     -A speech
                     -Opposition
                     -Importance

Moorer
    -Southeast Asia
    -Schedule
    -Briefings for President
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     [Unintelligible]

     Vietnam

[To listen to the segment (37m34s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-510.]

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The President left at 9:43 am