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Nixon, Council on International Economic Policy & Rogers on International…

Thursday, April 8, 1971 · 10:40 AM–12:17 PM ET · Cabinet Room · 1 hr 38 min

President Nixon and the Council on International Economic Policy (CIEP) met to review global economic trends, specifically focusing on the United States' competitive position regarding trade, technological exports, and shifting GNP shares among developed and developing nations. The participants discussed the challenges posed by Japanese industrial policies, the role of multinational corporations, and potential antitrust law reforms to better align with international business realities. The meeting served to define the CIEP’s procedural structure and establish priorities for future foreign economic initiatives, including trade legislation and adjustment assistance programs.

  • International Economic Policy
  • Balance of Trade
  • Japan-United States Economic Relations
  • Antitrust Policy
  • Multinational Corporations
  • Technology Exports

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On April 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the Council on International Economic Policy, including William P. Rogers, John B. Connally, Clifford M. Hardin, Maurice H. Stans, James D. Hodgson, George P. Shultz, Paul W. McCracken, Henry A. Kissinger, Carl J. Gilbert, David M. Kennedy, Rocco C. Siciliano, Deane R. Hinton, Donald A. Webster, C. Fred Bergsten, and Peter G. Peterson, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 10:40 am to 12:17 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 052-001 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 52-1

Date: April 8, 1971
Time: 10:40 am - 12:17 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with William P. Rogers, John B. Connally, Clifford M. Hardin, Maurice H.
Stans, James D. Hodgson, George P. Shultz, Paul W. McCracken, Henry A. Kissinger, Carl J.
Gilbert, David M. Kennedy, Rocco C. Siciliano, Deane R. Hinton, Donald A. Webster, C. Fred
Bergsten, and Peter G. Peterson

[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

     Domestic briefing for administration wives
         -Revenue sharing

     Photograph of Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP] members
          -Kissinger
               -Location
          -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Timing

     CIEP
            -Origins
                  -Connally
            -Purposes
            -Jurisdiction
            -Peterson’s role
            -Hardin
            -Rogers
            -Procedures
            -Membership
                  -Melvin R. Laird’s memo
                  -Limitation
            -Kennedy’s role
                  -Trade policy
                  -Special assignments

     Photographic session
          -Timing

     Foreign economics
          -Adlai E. Stevenson, III

     -Review of trends
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          -Options for United States
     -Gross National Product shares
          -United States
          -European community
          -Communist nations
          -Underdeveloped countries
          -Developed countries
                -Japan
                -United Kingdom
                -Soviet Union
          -Communist nations
                -Eastern Europe
                -China
     -Reserves
          -United States’ share
          -European Economic Community
          -Japan
          -United Kingdom
          -Soviet Union
     -Exports
          -United States
          -European Economic Community
                -United Kingdom
          -Japan
          -United Kingdom
          -Underdeveloped nations
     -Reserves
          -Oil-producing countries
          -Exports
                -United States
          -Importance
          -Canada
                -Foreign economics
          -United States’ share

United States’ balance of trade
     -Commerce Department study
           -Categories
           -Technological areas
           -Non-technological areas
           -Agriculture
     -Agriculture

               -Drop in workers
               -Output increase
          -Technological exports
               -Aircraft
               -Computers
               -Nuclear reactors
               -Motor vehicles
               -Telecommunications
                     -Japanese advances
          -Non-technology
               -Categories
               -Exports versus imports
               -Growth in underdeveloped countries
          -Motion picture industry
               -California
               -Connally
               -Favorable industry
               -Possible study
          -Foreign share of non-technology
               -Japanese competition
               -Shoes
               -Penetration
               -Share of United States’ market
          -Trade by country
               -Canada
                     -Shift
                     -Agriculture
                     -Automobiles
                     -Negative
                     -American investment
               -European Economic Community
                     -Franco Maria Malfatti
                     -Technology
                     -Agriculture

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[This segment was declassified on 02/28/2002.]
[National Security]
[052-001-w001]
[Duration: 12m 12s]

     United States’ balance of trade
          Japan

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     United States’ balance of trade
          -Connally and Paul A. Volcker
          -Income from United States’ companies abroad
                -Growth
          -Balance of payments
                -United States’ investments abroad
          -Liquidity problem
                -Connally, Volcker concern
          -Balance of payments
                -Gilbert
                -Current items
                -United States’ assets abroad
                -Strengths
                -Vulnerabilities
                -Underdeveloped countries
                -Population problems
                -Per capita growth
                -United States’ per capita growth
                -Increase of private investments
                -Raw materials

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[National Security]
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[Duration: 6s]

     United States’ balance of trade
          Japan

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     United States’ balance of trade
          -United States’ investment abroad

                -Increase
                -Canada
                -Europe

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[National Security]
[052-001-w003]
[Duration: 15s]

     United States’ balance of trade
          -United States’ investment abroad
                -Japan

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     United States’ balance of trade
          -United States’ investment abroad
                Japan
                      -Compared to domestic investment
                      -Concerns
                      -United States’ companies

     Multinational corporations
          -International Telephone and Telegraph
          -Labor union concerns
          -Trade implications
          -Involvement of United States’ companies
          -Commerce Department study

     Productivity question
          -Labor costs
          -United Kingdom
          -West Germany
          -Japan
                -Wage increases

     Raw materials
         -United States’ consumption
         -Future imports

     Research and Development
          -Importance
          -Great Britain’s program
          -Need for encouragement

     Japan
          -Low-cost encouragement of development
          -Article on Japan, Incorporated
          -Policy questions
          -Government involvement in international business
          -Export promotion
          -Cooperation
                -People’s Republic of China, Taiwan
          -Raw materials
                -Agreement with Australia
          -Labor
                -Shultz
                -Tied to productivity increases
                -Absence of strikes
          -Conglomerates
                -Sony Com [?]
                      -Compared to United States’ companies

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[Duration: 34s]

     Japan
          -Foreign investment

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     Justice Department
           -Anti-trust question
           -Conglomerates
                -United States’ policy compared with Japan’s
                -Difficulties for United States’ companies

     -Attitude towards big business
     -Rogers
     -President’s discussions with Connally
     -Anti-trust Division
           -Sherman Act
     -Anti-trust laws
           -Need for study
           -Foreign policy implications

Business attitudes
     -View of government-business relations in Japan
     -Conglomerates
           -President’s discussions with Connally
     -Justice Department
     -International trade
     -View of administration policies
     -Changes in business methods
     -Balance of payments problem
     -View of anti-trust enforcement

Justice Department
      -Policies
      -Rogers
      -Anti-trust Division study
            -Richard W. McLaren
      -Anti-trust laws
            -Possible need of change
      -Small franchises
            -Anti-trust Division
            -Burger King
      -Patents
      -Need for anti-trust study
      -McLaren

International trade
      -Steel companies
      -Voluntary export controls
      -Cartels
      -California banks
            -Connally’s conversation with unknown banker
            -Possible anti-trust suits
      -World position of United States

Trade and legislative strategy
     -Textiles and shoes
     -Import quota bill
           -Viable alternative
     -1969 legislation
     -Foreign economic initiative
           -European Economic Community
           -Japan
           -Canada
           -Trade
     -Textiles and shoes
     -Planning
     -Need for adjustment assistance program
           -Liberal policy
           -Early warning system
                 -Stans and Hodgson
           -Anti-trust aspects
           -Acquisitions
           -Vertical integration
           -Overseas issues
           -Incentives for investment
           -Retraining
                 -Peterson’s conversation with John H. Burns
           -Community assistance
           -Management assistance
                 -Policy questions
           -Domestic and foreign competition
                 -Need for differentiation
           -Complexity of process
           -Need for experimentation
     -Liberal trade policies
           -Need for stronger constituencies
           -Reaction to fears
           -Soybean people
                 -Clifford M. Hardin
           -Need to build constituencies
                 -Industries
                 -Consumers
           -Industrial tariffs
                 -Common market
                 -Agriculture
                 -Price support question
                 -Political rationale

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[This segment was declassified on 02/28/2002.]
[National Security]
[052-001-w004]
[Duration: 35s]

     Trade and legislative strategy
          -New Zealand

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          -Non-tariff barriers
          -Trade and investment restrictions
               -Japan
          -Economic blocs
               -United States’ policy considerations
               -Most-favored nation agreements
               -Implications
               -Monetary unions
                     -European Economic Community
          -Trade
          -Income and employment
          -Agriculture in Europe
               -Common Market
               -Sicco L. Mansholt
               -Increase in efficiency
               -Higher demand for products
               -Self-sufficiency
          -Population in Europe

     Foreign investment
          -United States’ exports compared to United States’ investments abroad
                -Policy considerations
          -International corporations
          -Possible international investment code
          -Connally
          -Tax and anti-trust provisions
          -Transfer of technology
                -Monitoring of agreements

          -International corporations
                -Views of organized labor

     International monetary policy
           -Connally’s and Volcker’s role
           -Balance of payments policy
           -European monetary union

     Competitive position of United States
         -Inflation and productivity
         -Stimulation of research and development
         -Effect of space program
         -Technology and the industrial sector

     Raw materials and energy position of United States
         -President’s forthcoming plan
         -Stans’ efforts
         -Need for research and development
         -Foreign policy aspects

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[National Security]
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[Duration: 16s]

     Raw materials and energy position of United States
         -Middle East

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          -Nuclear reactors
               -Supersonic Transport

     Export promotion
         -Financing and tax strategies
         -Japan
         -New United States government/business relations
         -Anti-trust aspects
         -New business relationships

                -Japanese made
           -Connally’s paper
           -Cooperation with United States’ allies in economic spheres
           -United States’ economic interests and foreign policy

     Photo session
          -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

     Kennedy’s forthcoming trip
         -Japan
         -Europe
         -CIEP members

     Subject discussed at meeting
          -Priorities
          -Proposals

     Franco Mario Malfatti

     Photo session
          -Stephen B. Bull

Malfatti entered at 12:00 pm

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[This segment was declassified on 02/28/2002.]
[National Security]
[052-001-w006]
[Duration: 4m 14s]

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[Previous archivists categorized this section as unintelligible. It has been rereviewed and
released 04/25/2019.]
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[Duration: 1m 40s]

     The President

     End of photo session

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     First Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP] meeting
           -Canada
           -George P. Shultz
           -Carl J. Gilbert
           -Peter G. Peterson’s talk
           -Paul A. Volcker

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[Duration: 1m 13s]

     The President’s schedule

     George P. Shultz

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The President, et al. left at 12:17 pm

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Conversation 052-001, April 8, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417174135). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/052-001 (accessed October 29, 2026).