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Conversation: 061-001

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Start Date: 14-Jun-1971 8:30 AM

End Date: 14-Jun-1971 4:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rogers, William P.Irwin, John N., IIJohnson, U. AlexisSamuels, NathanialMacomber, William B., Jr.Pedersen, Richard F.Cargo, William I.Green, MarshallDavies, Rodger P.Hillenbrand, Martin J.Herz, Martin F.Meyer, Charles A.Wellman, Harvey R.Williams, Maurice J.Ashbire, David M.Mitchell, John N.Richardson, Elliot L.Connally, John B.Kelley, Roger T.Unger, LeonardMcBride, Robert H.Watson, Arthur K.Gould, Kingdon, Jr.Handley, William J.Bunker, Ellsworth F.Bush, George H. W.Ehrlichman, John D.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Ziegler, Ronald L.Ziegler, Ronald L.Krogh, Egil ("Bud"), Jr.Ingersoll, John E. ("Jack")Helms, Richard M.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

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061b.mp3

061c.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, State Department representatives, and other officials, including William P. Rogers, John N. Irwin, II, U. Alexis Johnson, Nathanial Samuels, William B. Macomber, Jr., Richard F. Pedersen, William I. Cargo, Marshall Green, Rodger P. Davies, Martin J. Hillebrand, Martin F. Herz, Charles A. Meyer, Harvey R. Wellman, Maurice J. Williams, David M. Ashbire, John N. Mitchell, Elliot R. Richardson, John B. Connally, Roger T. Kelley, Leonard Unger, Robert H. McBride, Arthur K. Watson, Kingdon Goud, Jr., William J. Handley, Ellsworth F. Bunker, George H. W. Bush, John D. Ehrlichman, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, Donald H. Rumsfield, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., John E. ("Jack") Ingersoll, and Richard M. Helms, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 8:30 am and 4:34 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 061-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 61-1

Date: June 14, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:30 am and 4:34 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

William P. Rogers met with John N. Irwin, II, U. Alexis Johnson, Nathanial Samuels, William B.
Macomber, Jr., Richard F. Pedersen, William I. Cargo, Marshall Green, Rodger P. Davies,
Martin J. Hillenbrand, Martin F. Herz, Charles A. Meyer, Harvey R. Wellman, Maurice J.
Williams, David M. Abshire, John N. Mitchell, Elliot L. Richardson, John B. Connally, Roger T.
Kelley, Leonard Unger, Robert H. McBride, Arthur K. Watson, Kingdon Gould, Jr., William J.
Handley, Ellsworth F. Bunker, George H. W. Bush, John D. Ehrlichman, General Alexander M.
Haig, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., John E. (“Jack”)
Ingersoll, and Richard M. Helms

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President entered at 10:07 am

     Attendance
          -Relation to importance of meeting

     Drug problem
          -Attack on supply source
          -Prosecution of pushers
          -Treatment of users
          -Education
          -Scope
          -Use of drugs by overseas personnel
               -Relation to larger problem
          -Focus of current meeting
          -Location of heroin production
               -Attack on supply
               -Role of administration officers
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/08)



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     Foreign policy implications

[To listen to the segment (23s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-529.]

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           -Announcement of programs
           -Krogh’s presentation
                -Overview of problem
                     -Ingersoll’s role


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     Southeast Asia

[To listen to the segment (14s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-529.]

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           -Ingersoll’s presentation
                -Overview of problem
                       -Number of addicts in United States
                            -Nature of addiction
                            -Age breakdown
                                  -Trends
                            -Deaths in New York City
                                  -Age breakdown
                            -Trends in domestic use
                                  -Urban versus suburban


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 8m 14s ]
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/08)




     SOUTHEAST ASIA


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

[To listen to the segment (1h2m20s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-529, E-
530.]

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                      -Consumer education
                           -Effect of marijuana
                                -Entrance into drug culture
                      -Growth of drug use
                           -Class involvement
                                -Upper class versus ghettos


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     Southeast Asia

[To listen to the segment (10m44s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-530.]

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          -New initiatives
              -Narcotics office
                     -Organizational location
                     -Consolidation of authority
                     -Effect of new agency
                           -Evaluation of methods
                     -Goals
                     -Money for rehabilitation
                     -Prosecution of corrupt officials
                           -Need for expanded powers
                           -Background
                           -Basis for law
                           -Ongoing federal investigations
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/08)



                            -Proving of intent
                      -Department of Defense efforts
                            -Kelley
                            -Goals
                            -Veterans Administration programs
                            -Civilian programs
                            -Military programs
                            -Linkage of discharge and treatment
                -International efforts
                      -Congressional role
                      -United Nations fund
                            -United States’ role


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     Germany

[To listen to the segment (6s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-530.]

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                -Identification of addicts
                -Beliefs about addiction
                -Power of Southeast Asian heroin compared to United States’ heroin


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     Drugs in Europe

[To listen to the segment (2m4s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-530.]

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           -Thanks to ambassadors
           -Priority of efforts
                 -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] and Attorney General role
           -Magnitude of problem
                 -Drugs as “public enemy number one”
                                                5


                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/08)



           -Necessity of effective action
           -Use of drugs as seen by psychiatrists
           -Effect of drugs on past civilizations
           -Countermeasures of other countries


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     Japan

[To listen to the segment (13s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-530.]

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           -Effect in United States
                -Relation to crime
                -Responsibility of administration
           -Diplomatic priorities
           -Need for resources
           -Publication of the President’s attitudes on drug abuse
                -Diplomatic drawbacks versus need for action

The President left at 11:54 am

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 4:34 pm