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Conversation: 080-002

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Start Date: 19-Oct-1971 8:06 AM

End Date: 19-Oct-1971 9:55 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rogers, William P.Walker, Charls E.Scott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Smith, Margaret ChaseAllott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Cotton, NorrisFord, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Anderson, John B.Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Rhodes, John J.Conable, Barber B., Jr.Poff, Richard H.Devine, Samuel L.Ehrlichman, John D.Shultz, George P.MacGregor, ClarkDent, Harry S.Timmons, William E.Cook, Richard K.Cowen, Eugene S.Buchanan, Patrick J.Harlow, Bryce N.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

080a.mp3

080b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Republican Congressional leaders, including William P. Rogers, Charls E. Walker, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Norris Cotton, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, John J. Rhodes, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Richard H. Poff, Samuel L. Devine, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, Clark MacGregor, Harry S. Dent, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Eugene S. Cowen, Patrick J. Buchanan, Bryce N. Harlow, and Ronald L. Ziegler, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 8:06 am to 9:55 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 080-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 80-2

Date: October 19, 1971
Time: 8:06 am - 9:55 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with William P. Rogers, Charls E. Walker, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin,
Margaret Chase Smith, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Norris Cotton, Gerald R. Ford,
Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, John J. Rhodes, Barber B.
Conable, Jr., Richard H. Poff, Samuel L. Devine, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, Clark
MacGregor, Harry S. Dent, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Eugene S. Cowen, Patrick J.
Buchanan, Bryce N. Harlow, and Ronald L. Ziegler

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
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[Duration: 1m 9s ]


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    Agenda
        -Secretary of State Rogers
             -Foreign policy developments
                   -United Nations [UN]
        -Timing

    United States’ foreign policy
         -Berlin
         -Biological Test Ban
         -Summit meeting with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
         -Soviet announcement
               -Chinese
               -W[illiam] Averell Harriman’s comment
                     -Bombing halt
                           -Election
         -Chinese
         -USSR
         -Vietnam
         -Rogers
         -Chinese government
         -USSR government
         -Concern for nuclear war
         -Opportunities
         -News reports
               -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                     -Cuba
                     -Meeting with Chilean Foreign Minister
               -India-Pakistan
         -Administration accomplishments
               -Perspective
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-The President’s efforts to achieve world peace
      -”Generation of Peace”
      -Comprehensive program
      -Negotiations
            -Okinawa
                  -Japan
            -South Korea
                  -Troop levels
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Peking
            -Berlin
            -European Security Conference
                  -Romania
            -USSR
                  -Agreements
                  -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Moscow
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Peking
                  -Soviet reaction
-State of the world
      -Peaceful
      -Wars
      -Latin America
            -Nicaragua-El Salvador war
      -Nigerian hostilities
      -Middle East hostilities
      -Vietnam
            -Casualties
-US
      -Peaceful
      -Cities
      -Colleges
-Explanation for changes
      -The President’s policies
            -Speeches
      -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Rogers’ meetings with foreign leaders
      -Content of discussions
            -Leadership role for US
            -General Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
            -USSR
            -The President’s position in world
            -India-Pakistan
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                           -Economic policy


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 14s ]


     INDIA-PAKISTAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

[To listen to the segment (4m57s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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          -Rogers’ assessment of administration’s success
               -Democrats
                     -Mansfield amendment
                           -Vietnam
          -US foreign aid program
               -Possible Senate action
               -Latin America
               -Proxy from Karl E. Mundt
          -Relations with Congress
               -Ford
               -Kennedy
                     -Conversation with Rogers
                     -Press Club speech


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     USSR

[To listen to the segment (4m28s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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          -Domestic public relations
              -John W. Gardner’s actions
                    -Mansfield amendment
                    -Techniques
                          -Congressional districts
                                -Letters
                    -United Auto Workers [UAW]
                    -Congress of Industrial Organizations [CIO]
                    -Jack T. Conway
                    -Supporters described
                    -Common Cause
                    -Anti-war protests
                          -Detroit
                                -Detroit News
                                -Wayne State University
                          -Jerome P. Cavanaugh
                                -Griffin
                                -Audience
              -Ford’s schedule
                    -Grand Rapids
              -Democrats
              -The President’s role


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Privacy]
[Duration: 2s ]


     TAIWAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

[To listen to the segment (3m14s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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                -Domestic public support for UN
                     -Taiwan
                     -George Meany
                           -International Labor Organization [ILO]
                -Public comments
                -Possible Congressional action
                     -Appropriations for UN
                -Walt [Surname unintelligible]


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     Latin America

[To listen to the segment (54s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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                -Senators’ possible comments
                     -Allott
                     -Dominick
                -Administration position


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     UN and Taiwan

[To listen to the segment (18m41s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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           -Congress
               -Role
               -Mansfield amendment
               -PRC
               -USSR
               -President’s trips to the PRC, USSR
           -Summit meetings
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               -John Foster Dulles
          -Soviet summit
               -Goals
               -Approach
               -Glassboro
               -PRC
               -Planning
               -Communication
               -Berlin
               -Middle East
               -Vietnam
               -”Generation of Peace”
          -Summit meetings
               -USSR, PRC
               -Planning
               -Results


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     International trade

[To listen to the segment (1m39s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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          -Walker
          -Mansfield amendment
               -Republican strategy
          -Vietnam
               -Negotiations
               -Mansfield amendment
                    -Congress
                          -Republicans
               -Possible end to the war
                    -South Vietnam
                    -Congress
                          -Democrats
          -UN

Rogers left at an unknown time before 9:55 am
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Economic Stabilization Act
    -Amendments
          -Extension to April 30, 1973
                -Phase II of the President’s economic program
          -Interest rates and dividends
                -Credit Control Act of 1969
                -Base figures
                      -Administration’s approach
                -Treasury rates
                -Treasury bill yield
                -Prime rate, consumer rate, mortgage rate
                -New York Times
                      -First National City Bank
                -Phase II of the President’s economic program
          -Proxmire amendment
                -Pay Board
                -Price Commission
          -Penalties and judicial review
                -Justice Department
                -Jurisdiction
                      -Federal district court
                            -Temporary emergency court of appeals
                                  -World War II
                                  -Korea
                                  -Chief Justice Warren E. Burger
                      -Agencies
                            -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
                            -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
                            -Pay Board
                            -Price Commission
                                  -Administration Procedures Act
                                  -Appeals procedures
    -Congress
    -Funding
          -Customs
    -Hiring of personnel
          -Agency subpoena power
          -Waiver of conflict of interest provisions
    -Confirmation of board members
          -Senate
                -Cost of Living Council
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           -Pay Board and Price Commission
                 -Responsibilities
           -World War II comparison
     -Time table
           -Political considerations
           -House Banking and Currency Committee
           -Senate
                 -Tax Bill
                 -Tactics
                       -Judiciary Committee
                 -Post Office and Civil Service
     -International Financial Institutions Authorization Bill
           -Asian Development Bank
           -International Development Association
           -William Proxmire
                 -Amendment
                       -Appropriations
                       -Effect
                       -Rogers
     -Walker
           -Charles L. Shultze

The President’s economic program
     -Phase II
          -Controls
                 -Office of Price Administration [OPA]
                 -1946 control mechanisms
                 -John Kenneth Galbraith
                 -Wage and price controls
          -Cost of living
          -Jobs
                 -Tax program
                 -US world position
                       -International monetary situation
     -Import surcharge
          -Latin America
          -Reciprocity
     -Gold price
     -Opponents
     -Objective
          -Permanent solution
          -Cost of living
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                 -Jobs
                 -Monetary position
           -Price Board, Pay Board
                 -Cause and effect
           -Budget restraint
           -The President’s August 15th program
           -Textile rate
           -Import quotas
                 -Tax bill amendment
                       -Free trade amendment
                             -Reciprocal barriers
                             -Senate action
                             -House action
                 -Textiles
           -Textile negotiations
                 -Surcharge
                 -Soviet summit
                 -Peter G. Peterson
                 -David M. Kennedy
                       -Shoes
                             -Spain
                             -Italy
           -International situation
                 -New York Times
                 -US position
                       -Surcharge
                       -Gold price
                       -Republicans
                             -Import surcharge


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     Textiles

[To listen to the segment (23s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-563.]

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     Senate
          -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
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           -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
                -Democratic Policy Committee
           -Schedule

     Farewells

     The President’s schedule

The President left at 9:55 am

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

Walker, et al. left at an unknown time after 9:55 am