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Start Date: 28-Mar-1972 7:30 AM

End Date: 28-Mar-1972 10:01 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Richardson, Elliot L.Scott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Smith, Margaret ChaseCotton, NorrisAllott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Ford, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Anderson, John B.Conable, Barber B., Jr.Poff, Richard H.Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Rhodes, John J.Smith, H. AllenDevine, Samuel L.Dole, Robert J.MacGregor, ClarkDent, Harry S.Timmons, William E.Cook, Richard K.Korologos, Thomas C.Buchanan, Patrick J.Ziegler, Ronald L.Stein, HerbertKoch, Noel C.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

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NARA Description:

On March 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Elliot L. Richardson, and Republican Congressional leaders, including Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Richard H. Poff, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, John J. Rhodes, H. Allen Smith, Samuel L. Devine, Robert J. Dole, George P. Shultz, Clark MacGregor, Harry S. Dent, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Patrick J. Buchanan, Ronald L. Ziegler, Herbert Stein, and Noel C. Koch, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 7:30 am and 10:01 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 097-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 97-2

Date: March 28, 1972
Time: Unknown after 7:30 am until 10:01 am
Location: Cabinet Room

Elliot L. Richardson met with Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Norris
Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B.
Anderson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Richard H. Poff, Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, John J. Rhodes,
H. Allen Smith, Samuel L. Devine, Robert J. Dole, George P. Shultz, Clark MacGregor, Harry S.
Dent, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Patrick J. Buchanan,
Ronald L. Ziegler, Herbert Stein, and Noel C. Koch


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     Cape Kennedy
          -Name

     Education
         -Washington Post editorial, March 23rd

     Washington Post editorial, March 23rd
         -Memorandum
              -Richard G. Kleindienst
                    -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]

     Stock market reaction
          -ITT
          -1972 campaign
               -Financing
                     -Democrats
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                           -Convention in Miami
                     -ITT
                     -Unknown state chairman

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President entered at 8:05 am

     Easter

     Agenda
         -Shultz and Stein
         -MacGregor

     Pending legislation
          -Administration’s accomplishments
          -Scheduling
          -Emphasis
          -Scheduling
               -Republican and Democratic National Conventions
          -General revenue sharing
               -Wilbur D. Mills
                      -Scheduling
               -Prospects
          -Welfare reform
               -Russell B. Long’s actions
          -Special revenue sharing
               -Urban development
               -Rural development
                      -Chairman William R. Poage
                      -Manpower bill
                      -Law enforcement
                           -Poff
                           -Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
          -Government reorganization
          -Pension proposals
               -Mills
               -Conable
               -Ways and Means Committee
          -Health
               -Mills
               -National insurance
                                  4

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-Water pollution control
      -Forthcoming amendment
            -George H. Mahon
            -Rhodes
            -Public Works Committee
            -Provisions
                  -Congressional oversight
            -Possible conference committee
            -Mahon
            -Provisions
            -Environmental Protection Agency [EPA]
            -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
            -Implications
-Ocean dumping
-Pesticides, noise pollution
-Crippling Strikes Prevention Act
      -Dominick
      -West Coast dock strike
      -James Harvey proposal
      -Robert W. Packwood
-Student Transportation Moratorium Act/Equal Education Opportunities Act
      -Richardson’s testimony before Congress
            -Administration’s opponents
            -Media
            -Unknown man’s conversation with Richardson
            -MacGregor
            -Compensatory education
            -Memorandum
            -Emergency School Assistance Act
            -Title 1 money
            -Disadvantaged youth
      -Constitutionality
      -School desegregation plans
      -Moratorium
      -Congressional jurisdiction
            -Supreme Court decisions
                  -Swann and Mecklenburg cases
                  -Section 5, Fourteenth Amendment, US Constitution
                  -Previous busing plans in the South
                  -Emergency School Assistance Act
      -Compensatory education
            -Walter F. Mondale bill
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     -Possible House action
-Conference committee on emergency school aid
     -Busing moratorium
     -Poff
     -William S. Broomfield amendment
-Constitution
     -Moratorium, Title 2
     -Article III
     -Robert H. Bork’s memo
     -Charles Wright’s memo
-Re-opening court decrees
     -Views of Southern congressmen
     -Swann
     -Richardson’s previous testimony
     -Jurisdiction
     -Possible Senate action
           -Roman L. Hruska
           -Judiciary Committee
-Funding
     -Title 1
     -Distribution
-Compensatory education
-Possible congressional action
     -Moratorium
-Views of House Committee Chairman Carl D. Perkins
-Views of Southerners
     -Title 2
-Possible congressional action
     -Lou Wexler
           -Title 1
-Legal briefs
     -Archibald Cox
     -Poff
     -Wexler
     -Distribution, March 25th
     -Richardson
-Possible constitutional amendment
     -Possible effect
     -Poff
-Possible congressional action
     -Emanuel Celler
     -Judiciary Committee, Senate
                                      6

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                      -Jacob K. Javits
                      -Moratorium
          -Re-opening decrees
                -Grand Rapids, Michigan
                -Javits
          -Congressional procedures
          -Broomfield amendment
          -Congressional procedures
          -Effects on the South
          -Congressional procedures
                -Celler
                -William M. Colmer
                      -Minimum Wage Bill
                -Dock Strike Bill
                -Wexler
                -Rules Committee
                -Colmer
                      -Views regarding Minimum Wage Bill
          -Constitutional amendment
          -Possible effects of moratorium
                -Texas
                      -Tennessee
          -Administration’s interventions in cases
                -Michigan
                -Tennessee
          -Costs
                -Richardson
                -Per pupil
          -Re-opening decrees
          -Constitutional amendment
                -James O. Eastland
                -Javits-Mondale
                -Scott, Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
          -Politics
          -Regional distinctions
                -North, South

Busing
     -Buffalo, New York
     -Michigan
          -Ford
     -Timing
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          -1972 election
     -Judges
          -Political motivations
                -John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson

Pending legislation
     -Appropriations
          -Schedule

Busing
     -Politics
           -Constitutional amendment
           -Moratorium
                -Possible votes
                      -Presidential candidates

Pending legislation
     -Revenue sharing
     -Welfare reform
     -Congress’ schedule
     -Democrats’ convention schedule
     -Congress’ accomplishments
          -Carl B. Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs, Mansfield
     -Congress’ schedule
          -Democrats’ views
     -Popular opinion
     -Democratic candidates for president
     -Congress’s schedule
          -Harry S Truman’s experience
          -Republicans’ views
                 -Wilson
     -Tax reform
          -Revenue sharing

Stein’s meeting with the Advertising Council, March 27th

National economy
     -Advertising Council’s views
     -The President’s program
           -Stein’s speech
                 -Conable
           -Success
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            -Gross National Product [GNP], unemployment, inflation
      -Interest rates
            -Housing starts
-Plant and equipment expenditures
-Consumer confidence indices
      -Albert E. Sindlinger
      -University of Michigan
-Industrial production
-Unemployment rate
      -Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.’s comments
            -Seasonal adjustment
-Inflation
      -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
      -Effect of the President’s program
      -Art Buchwald’s column, March 28th
      -Food
            -Connally’s forthcoming meeting with chain store executives, March 29th
                  -Meat prices
      -Effect of the President’s program
            -Hubert H. Humphrey’s comments
      -Weekly earnings
-The President’s program
      -Objectives
      -Effect
-Stein’s New York Times article
      -O’Brien
-Economic indicators
      -Humphrey
      -Description and interpretation
-The President’s program
      -Wage increases
-Distribution of Stein’s fact sheet
      -Ford
-Food prices
      -Farmers’ share
      -Middlemen and retailers
            -Connally’s forthcoming meeting
-Wage Board
      -Unemployment figures
      -George Meany’s walkout
            -Leonard Woodcock
            -Humphrey
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      -Teamsters
      -Construction trades
      -Labor
      -Accomplishments
      -Composition
            -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
            -Rocco C. Siciliano
      -Meany’s allegations
      -Labor
      -West Coast longshore case
-Crippling Strikes Act
      -West Coast longshoremen
-Wage Board
      -Effect on wage increases
-Price Commission
      -Effect on price increases
      -Stein
-The President’s program
      -Accomplishments
-Expansion
      -Inflation
      -Productivity
      -Employment
-Wage and price controls
      -Efficacy
      -Rhodes
-Federal budget
-Politics
      -Cost of living
      -Unemployment
      -Cost of living
            -Meany
            -Unions
            -Meany
                  -Sindlinger’s poll
-The President’s program
      -Accomplishments
            -Humphrey
            -Cost of living
      -Opponents
            -Motives
-Pay Board
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                -Meany
           -Food prices
                -Role of unions
                -Profits of middlemen
                -John R. (“Jack”) Williams, Jr.
                -Connally’s conversation with a chicken farmer in Texas
                      -Hotel Pierre

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

           -Timmons
           -MacGregor

The President, et al. left at 10:01 am