Conversation: 104-010
Prev: 104-009 Next: 104-011Start Date: 25-Jul-1972 8:45 AM
End Date: 25-Jul-1972 3:39 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Landrieu, Maurice E. ("Moon"); Massell, Sam; Welch, Louie; Gribbs, Roman S.; Burke, Frank W.; Haskell, Harry G.; Maier, Henry W.; Alioto, Joseph; Uhlman, Wesley C.; Alexander, Lee; Martin, Roy; Schaefer, William D.; Mineta, Norman Y.; Garn, E. J. ("Jake"); Gibson, Kenneth A.; Hatcher, Richard; Spellman, Gladys N.; Connor, William J.; Hillenbrand, Bernard; Gunther, John J.; Pritchard, Allen; Ehrlichman, John D.; Harper, Edwin L.; Walker, Charls E.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Ward, Clarence; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Macke, Earl;Recording Device: Cabinet Room
NARA Description:
On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and mayors and county officials, including Maurice E. ("Moon") Landrieu, Sam Massell, Louie Welch, Roman S. Gribbs, Frank W. Burke, Harry G. Haskell, Henry W. Maier, John W. Diggs, Joseph Alioto, Wesley C. Uhlman, Lee Alexander, Roy Martin, William D. Schaefer, Norman Y. Mineta, E. J. ("Jake") Garn, Kenneth A. Gibson, Richard Hatcher, Gladys N. Spellman, William J. Connor, Bernard Hillenbrand, Allen Pritchard, John J. Gunther, John D. Ehrlichman, Edwin L. Harper, Charls E. Walker, Thomas C. Korologos, Clarence D. Ward, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Earl Macke, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 8:45 am and 3:39 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 104-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 104-10
Date: July 25, 1972
Time: 8:45 am - unknown before 3:39 pm
Location: Cabinet Room
The President met with Moon Landrieu, Sam Massell, Louie Welch, Roman S. Gribbs, Frank W.
Burke, Harry G. Haskell, Henry W. Maier, John W. Driggs, Joseph Alioto, Wesley C. Uhlman,
Lee Alexander, Roy Martin, William D. Schaefer, Norman Y. Mineta, E. J. (“Jake”) Garn,
Kenneth A. Gibson, Richard Hatcher, Gladys N. Spellman, William J. Connor, Bernard
Hillenbrand, Allen Pritchard, John J. Gunther, John D. Ehrlichman, Edwin L. Harper, Charls E.
Walker, Thomas C. Korologos, Clarence D. Ward, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Earl Macke
[General conversation/Unintelligible]
Meeting
-Time of day
-Attendance
-The President’s appreciation
-Agenda
Governors
-Meeting
-Revenue sharing
-The President’s talk
-Distribution of funds
-Disagreement among governors
-Geographical allocation
-Taxation
-Income tax
Mayors
-Revenue sharing
-Disagreements
-Congressional bill
-House version
-Senate
-Mayors’ advice to Congress
-The President’s encouragement
-Congressional votes
-Support from administration
-Mayors’ appearances before Congress
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-Timing
-Republican convention
-Importance
-Form of Senate bill
Revenue sharing
-Development since 1969
-Assistance to the President
-Congressmen
-State and local officials
-Non-partisanship
-1972 election
-Bipartisan support
-Necessity
-Importance
-Distribution
-Political obligations
-Benefits
-Support
-Mayors
-Pressure upon Congress
-Popularity of revenue sharing
-Other officials
Spellman
Revenue sharing
-The President’s support
-Necessity
-Support
-Bipartisanship
-Necessity
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s support
-Spellman
-Letter to Baltimore Sun
-The President’s and Vice President’s support
-Necessity
-Desired changes
-Lobbying of Congress
-Local officials
-Requirements
-Support of proposal
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-Local officials
-Support of mayors
-Changes
-Proposals
-Impairment to bill
-Controversy
-Possible defeat of bill
-Administration’s preparation
-Checks prepared
-Number
-Support
-US Conference of Mayors
-Changes in bill
-Proposals
-Local options
-Support
-The President’s support
-Support for the President
Present meeting
-Participants
-Mayoral links with Senate
-Paul J. Fannin and Driggs
-Russell B. Long and Landrieu
-Wallace F. Bennett and Garn
-Vance Hartke and Hatcher
-Gratitude to the President
-Revenue sharing bill
-Extraneous legislation
-Welfare reform
-Mayoral opposition
-Importance
-Need for immediate action
-Republican Convention
-Reason for attendance at present meeting
-Compromises
-Speakers’ gratitude to the President
Proposed revenue sharing
-Supporters
-State legislators
-Republicans
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-Democrats
-Congressional testimony
The President’s “New Federalism”
-Support
-State legislators
-Programs
-No-fault insurance
-Mayors’ gratitude
-Mayors’ support
Upcoming conference in New Orleans
-Location
Upcoming meeting of the National League of Cities
-Location
-Invitation to the President
Upcoming meeting of the National Association of Counties
-Scheduling
-The President’s schedule
-Location
-The President’s preference
Proposed revenue sharing
-Possible retroactivity
-Congressional attitude
-House of Representatives
-Senate
-Need for mayors’ support
The President’s “federalism”
-Speakers’ gratitude to the President
-Intention
-Delegation of responsibilities
-State and local governments
-Speaker’s endorsement
-Revenue sharing
-Necessity
John V. Lindsay
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Revenue sharing
-Supporters
-State and local officials
-Federal officials
-Necessity
-Priority for administration
-Necessity for country
-Importance
-Future of nation
-Novelty of idea
-Supporters
-Louisianans
-Political power
-Allen J. Ellender
-Long
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Necessity
-Long
-Welfare bill
-Revenue sharing bill
-Possible amendments
-Landrieu
-Long
-Possible amendments
-The President’s attitude
-Proposed legislation
-Effect upon Los Angeles
-Intelligence
-Supporters
-Senate
-Understanding of needs of state and local governments
-Persuasion
-State and local officials
-Needs of state and local governments
-Arguments to use
-Form of bill
-Timeliness of action
-Implementation
-Passage of bill
-Passage of bill
-Senate’s approval
-Congress’ approval
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-Supporters
-Wilbur D. Mills
-John W. Byrnes
-J. Herbert Burke
-Possible amendments to bill
-Welfare reform
-Effect within Congress
-Welfare reform
-Chance of passage
-Differences between bills
-Form of bill
Present meeting
-Participants
-Schedule
-Spokesmen
-Press conference
-Participants
-The President’s appreciation
-Other concerns
Revenue sharing
-Importance
-Congressional action
Present meeting
-Coverage by press
-National press
-Local press
-Purpose
-Revenue sharing
-Urgency
[General conversation/Unintelligible]
The President left at 9:29 am
[General conversation/Unintelligible]
Unknown people left at an unknown time before 3:39 pm
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