Conversation: 107-001
Prev: 106-012 Next: 107-002Start Date: 8-Aug-1972 8:02 AM
End Date: 8-Aug-1972 10:11 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap"); Stein, Herbert; Scott, Hugh; Griffin, Robert P.; Cotton, Norris; Allott, Gordon L.; Dominick, Peter H.; Bennett, Wallace F.; Young, Milton R.; Ford, Gerald R.; Arends, Leslie C.; Rhodes, John J.; Devine, Samuel L.; Smith, H. Allen; Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob"); Conable, Barber B., Jr.; Bow, Frank T.; Byrnes, John W.; Poff, Richard H.; Dole, Robert J.; MacGregor, Clark; Ehrlichman, John D.; Warren, Gerald L.; Cook, Richard K.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Dent, Harry S.; Buchanan, Patrick J.; Klein, Herbert G.; Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.; Gifford, William L.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap"); Stein, Herbert; Scott, Hugh; Griffin, Robert P.; Cotton, Norris; Allott, Gordon L.; Dominick, Peter H.; Bennett, Wallace F.; Young, Milton R.; Ford, Gerald R.; Arends, Leslie C.; Rhodes, John J.; Devine, Samuel L.; Smith, H. Allen; Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob"); Conable, Barber B., Jr.; Bow, Frank T.; Byrnes, John W.; Poff, Richard H.; Dole, Robert J.; MacGregor, Clark; Ehrlichman, John D.; Warren, Gerald L.; Cook, Richard K.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Dent, Harry S.; Buchanan, Patrick J.; Klein, Herbert G.; Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.; Gifford, William L.;Recording Device: Cabinet Room
NARA Description:
On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Republican Congressional leaders, including Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Herbert Stein, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Wallace F. Bennett, Milton R. Young, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes, Samuel L. Devine, H. Allen Smith, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Frank T. Bow, John W. Byrnes, Richard H. Poff, Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Gerald L. Warren, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Patrick J. Buchanan, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and William L. Gifford, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 8:02 am and 10:11 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 107-001 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 107-1
Date: August 8, 1972
Time: Unknown after 8:02 am until 10:11 am
Location: Cabinet Room
The President met with Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Herbert Stein, Hugh Scott, Robert P.
Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Wallace F. Bennett, Milton R.
Young, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes, Samuel L. Devine, H. Allen Smith,
Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Frank T. Bow, John W. Byrnes, Richard H.
Poff, Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Gerald L. Warren, Richard K.
Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Patrick J. Buchanan, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr., and William L. Gifford
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]
Economy
-Recovery
-Inflation rate
-Reduction
New Economic Policy
-Productivity increases
-Reduction of taxes
-Real earnings
-Spendable earnings
Unemployment
-Statistics
Gross National Product [GNP]
-Hobart Rowen
-Growth rate
-Farm income
-Forecast
-GNP
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Growth
-Unemployment
-CPI forecast
-Food price increases
-Meat
-Chicken
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Tape Subject Log
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-Eggs
-Wholesale meat price decline
-Inflation
-Causes
-Budget control
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 9m 9s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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Council of Economic Advisors report
-Testimony, statistics
-Presidential statement
Unemployment
-Michigan
-Motor vehicle sales
-Repeal of auto excise tax
-Tool and die industry
-Rate
Employment
-Figures
-Department of Defense [DOD]
-Reductions in armed service employment
-Vietnam
Unemployment
-Administration record
-George S. McGovern speech
-Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy administrations
-Effect of armed forces size on figures
-Economic issue
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 2s ]
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-Reduction of armed forces
-Effects
-Thomas E. Dewey
-New Deal
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 11s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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-Full employment
Income taxes
-Avoidance of payment
-Speech by Edwin S. Cohen
-Stewart R. Mott
Defense Department
-Reduction in force
-Defense industries
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-Vietnam
-Unemployment
Income taxes
-System
-Tax reform program
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 20s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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-Reforms in tax laws
-Effects
Budget
-Weinberger
-McGovern
-Effect on taxes
Economy
-John B. Connally speech
-Increased employment
-Figures
-Shift in types of jobs
-Military versus civilian
Stein
-Role in President's administration
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Tape Subject Log
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 23m 31s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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Spending ceiling bill
-Cook
-Comments from Johnson’s book
-House Resolution [HR] 16090
-J. William Fulbright
-Strategy
-Inflation
-Budget control
-International economics
-Proposed ceiling
-Effects
-Tax increase
-Previous budgets of 1970's
-Compared to present budget
-Spending increases
-Use of the veto
-Bill
-Johnson
-Bow
-Byrnes
-Wilbur D. Mills
-George H. Mahon
Departments of Labor and Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] Appropriation Bill
-Possibility of veto
-Amount of bill
-Social Security
-Size of bill
-Effect on taxes
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Tape Subject Log
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George P. Shultz
-Connally
-Strategy in Congress
-HEW conference report
-Roll call vote
-Veto
-Senate input to bill
-Bureau of the Budget input
-Black lung benefits
-Winn [sp?] amendment
-Black lung benefits
Department of Defense budget
-Cuts
-Melvin R. Laird
-Popular opinion
-Effect on US international status
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Arms limitation
-Trident
-GNP percentage on defense
-Compared with USSR
-Strategic Arms Limitations Talks [SALT]
-Budget cuts
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Effect
[To listen to the segment (17s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-601.]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 10s ]
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Economy
-Theory
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Foreign relations
[To listen to the segment (5s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-601.]
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-Strategy
-Government
-Private enterprise
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 14s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
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Budget cuts
-Department of Defense
-Effect on military bases
-MacGregor report
-Distribution
-Civilian advisory groups
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-Laird press conference
-Hill Air Force Base, Utah
-The President’s visit in 1970
-San Jose base
-Portsmouth Naval Base
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 41s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
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Congress
-Foreign aid
-Vietnam amendment
-Carl B. Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Strategy
Foreign aid bill
-Aid to Israel, Korea, Taiwan
-Arends
-Hamilton amendment
Vietnam
-”End the War” amendment
-Ted Stevens
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Congressional activity
-Brooke amendment
-Aiken amendment
-Strategy
-Congressional activity
Legislation
-Weapons
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-Hart amendment
-Kennedy amendment
-Hart amendment
-Gun registration
-Objections
-Sportsmen
-Tax on weapons
-Amendments
-Inexpensive hand guns
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Fulbright
-George D. Aiken
-Committee
Arms control
-Jackson Amendment
-Administration position
-Congressional activity
-USSR
-Wording of legislation
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 29s ]
WEAPON SYSTEMS
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Public works
-Rural development
Agriculture
-Appropriations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Increases
-Rural development
-Budget
-Environment
HEW
-Cotton
-Committee
-Appropriations subcommittee
-Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
-William Loeb
-Veto possibility
-Strategy
-Warren G. (“Maggie”) Magnuson
-Continuing resolution
-Strategy
-Veto
-Public reaction
Foreign Relations Committee
Foreign Affairs Committee
-Strategy
-Otto E. Passman
-Congressmen
-Seymour Halpern
-Donald W. Riegle, Jr.
-Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
Foreign aid authorization
Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] authorization
-Strategy
-Jacob K. Javits
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Ehrlichman
-Legal services
-Reduction in authorization
-Strategy
-Staff
-Need for continuing resolution
-Strategy
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Veto
-HEW
-Legal services
-The President
-OEO
-Javits
-Javits
-Strategy
-Albert H. Quie
-HEW appropriation
-Shriver
Busing
-Congressional activity
-William M. Colmer
-Committee on Education and Labor
-Constitutional Amendment
-Quie
-James G. O’Hara
-William D. Ford
Continuing resolution
-Mahon
Virginia Supreme Court
-Poff
-Supreme Court
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 53s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Poff
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-Court appointment
John L. McClellan
[Unintelligible]
The President, et al. left at 10:11 am