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Start Date: 8-Aug-1972 8:02 AM

End Date: 8-Aug-1972 10:11 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap")Stein, HerbertScott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Cotton, NorrisAllott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Bennett, Wallace F.Young, Milton R.Ford, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Rhodes, John J.Devine, Samuel L.Smith, H. AllenWilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Conable, Barber B., Jr.Bow, Frank T.Byrnes, John W.Poff, Richard H.Dole, Robert J.MacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.Warren, Gerald L.Cook, Richard K.Korologos, Thomas C.Dent, Harry S.Buchanan, Patrick J.Klein, Herbert G.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.Gifford, William L.Nixon, Richard M. (President)Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap")Stein, HerbertScott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Cotton, NorrisAllott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Bennett, Wallace F.Young, Milton R.Ford, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Rhodes, John J.Devine, Samuel L.Smith, H. AllenWilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Conable, Barber B., Jr.Bow, Frank T.Byrnes, John W.Poff, Richard H.Dole, Robert J.MacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.Warren, Gerald L.Cook, Richard K.Korologos, Thomas C.Dent, Harry S.Buchanan, Patrick J.Klein, Herbert G.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.Gifford, William L.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

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NARA Description:

On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Republican Congressional leaders, including Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Herbert Stein, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Wallace F. Bennett, Milton R. Young, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes, Samuel L. Devine, H. Allen Smith, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Frank T. Bow, John W. Byrnes, Richard H. Poff, Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Gerald L. Warren, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Patrick J. Buchanan, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and William L. Gifford, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 8:02 am and 10:11 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 107-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 107-1

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: Unknown after 8:02 am until 10:11 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Herbert Stein, Hugh Scott, Robert P.
Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Wallace F. Bennett, Milton R.
Young, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes, Samuel L. Devine, H. Allen Smith,
Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Frank T. Bow, John W. Byrnes, Richard H.
Poff, Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Gerald L. Warren, Richard K.
Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Patrick J. Buchanan, Herbert G. Klein, Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr., and William L. Gifford
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

     Economy
         -Recovery
         -Inflation rate
               -Reduction

     New Economic Policy
         -Productivity increases
         -Reduction of taxes
         -Real earnings
         -Spendable earnings

     Unemployment
         -Statistics

     Gross National Product [GNP]
          -Hobart Rowen
          -Growth rate
          -Farm income
          -Forecast
               -GNP
               -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
               -Growth
               -Unemployment
               -CPI forecast
               -Food price increases
                     -Meat
                     -Chicken
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                    -Eggs
                    -Wholesale meat price decline
              -Inflation
                    -Causes
                    -Budget control


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 9m 9s ]


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    Council of Economic Advisors report
        -Testimony, statistics
        -Presidential statement

    Unemployment
        -Michigan
              -Motor vehicle sales
              -Repeal of auto excise tax
              -Tool and die industry
        -Rate

    Employment
        -Figures
        -Department of Defense [DOD]
             -Reductions in armed service employment
                  -Vietnam

    Unemployment
        -Administration record
             -George S. McGovern speech
             -Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy administrations
             -Effect of armed forces size on figures
        -Economic issue
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 2s ]


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         -Reduction of armed forces
              -Effects
              -Thomas E. Dewey
              -New Deal


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 11s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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         -Full employment

    Income taxes
         -Avoidance of payment
              -Speech by Edwin S. Cohen
         -Stewart R. Mott

    Defense Department
         -Reduction in force
         -Defense industries
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                -Vietnam
            -Unemployment

    Income taxes
         -System
         -Tax reform program


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 20s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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            -Reforms in tax laws
                 -Effects

    Budget
        -Weinberger
        -McGovern
             -Effect on taxes

    Economy
        -John B. Connally speech
             -Increased employment
                   -Figures
                   -Shift in types of jobs
                   -Military versus civilian

    Stein
            -Role in President's administration
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 23m 31s ]


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    Spending ceiling bill
        -Cook
        -Comments from Johnson’s book
        -House Resolution [HR] 16090
              -J. William Fulbright
              -Strategy
                    -Inflation
                    -Budget control
                    -International economics
              -Proposed ceiling
                    -Effects
                          -Tax increase
        -Previous budgets of 1970's
              -Compared to present budget
        -Spending increases
        -Use of the veto
              -Bill
              -Johnson
              -Bow
              -Byrnes
              -Wilbur D. Mills
              -George H. Mahon

    Departments of Labor and Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] Appropriation Bill
        -Possibility of veto
        -Amount of bill
             -Social Security
             -Size of bill
                    -Effect on taxes
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     George P. Shultz
         -Connally
         -Strategy in Congress
               -HEW conference report
         -Roll call vote
         -Veto
         -Senate input to bill
         -Bureau of the Budget input
               -Black lung benefits
               -Winn [sp?] amendment
               -Black lung benefits

     Department of Defense budget
         -Cuts
               -Melvin R. Laird
               -Popular opinion
               -Effect on US international status
               -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
               -Arms limitation
                    -Trident
         -GNP percentage on defense
               -Compared with USSR
         -Strategic Arms Limitations Talks [SALT]
               -Budget cuts


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     Effect

[To listen to the segment (17s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-601.]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 10s ]
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     Economy
         -Theory


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     Foreign relations

[To listen to the segment (5s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-601.]

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           -Strategy
                 -Government
                 -Private enterprise


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 14s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

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     Budget cuts
         -Department of Defense
               -Effect on military bases
                    -MacGregor report
                          -Distribution
                                -Civilian advisory groups
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                    -Laird press conference
              -Hill Air Force Base, Utah
                    -The President’s visit in 1970
              -San Jose base
              -Portsmouth Naval Base


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 41s ]


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    Congress
        -Foreign aid
        -Vietnam amendment
             -Carl B. Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs
             -Strategy

    Foreign aid bill
         -Aid to Israel, Korea, Taiwan
               -Arends
               -Hamilton amendment

    Vietnam
         -”End the War” amendment
              -Ted Stevens
              -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
              -Congressional activity
                   -Brooke amendment
              -Aiken amendment
                   -Strategy
              -Congressional activity

    Legislation
         -Weapons
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              -Hart amendment
              -Kennedy amendment
              -Hart amendment
                    -Gun registration
                         -Objections
                         -Sportsmen
                               -Tax on weapons
                    -Amendments
                         -Inexpensive hand guns
                    -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                    -Fulbright
                    -George D. Aiken
                    -Committee

    Arms control
        -Jackson Amendment
              -Administration position
              -Congressional activity
                  -USSR
              -Wording of legislation


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 29s ]


    WEAPON SYSTEMS


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    Public works
         -Rural development

    Agriculture
         -Appropriations
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          -Increases
                -Rural development
     -Budget
     -Environment

HEW
   -Cotton
   -Committee
   -Appropriations subcommittee
         -Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
   -William Loeb
   -Veto possibility
         -Strategy
         -Warren G. (“Maggie”) Magnuson
         -Continuing resolution
   -Strategy
   -Veto
         -Public reaction

Foreign Relations Committee

Foreign Affairs Committee
     -Strategy
     -Otto E. Passman
     -Congressmen
           -Seymour Halpern
           -Donald W. Riegle, Jr.
           -Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.

Foreign aid authorization

Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] authorization
     -Strategy
           -Jacob K. Javits
     -R. Sargent Shriver
     -Ehrlichman
           -Legal services
           -Reduction in authorization
     -Strategy
     -Staff
     -Need for continuing resolution
     -Strategy
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                 -Veto
                 -HEW
                 -Legal services
                      -The President
                      -OEO
                      -Javits
           -Javits
           -Strategy
                 -Albert H. Quie
                 -HEW appropriation
                 -Shriver

    Busing
         -Congressional activity
               -William M. Colmer
               -Committee on Education and Labor
         -Constitutional Amendment
         -Quie
         -James G. O’Hara
         -William D. Ford

    Continuing resolution
         -Mahon

    Virginia Supreme Court
         -Poff
               -Supreme Court


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 53s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    Poff
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           -Court appointment

     John L. McClellan

     [Unintelligible]

The President, et al. left at 10:11 am