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Start Date: 6-Oct-1972 8:40 PM

End Date: 6-Oct-1972 9:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: Camp David Study Table

147-004.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 8:40 pm to 9:00 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 147-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 147-4

Date: October 6, 1972
Time: 8:40 pm - 9:00 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 217-6]

        Campaign issues
           -Commercials
               -The President’s view
               -Defense
               -Hard hat
               -Changes of position
                                 3

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Oct-06)

    -Amnesty
    -Vietnam
         -Robert Teeter's assessment of issue
         -George S. McGovern's position
              -Compared to the administration’s position
         -Effectiveness compared to economic issues
-Request for Colson to check with Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
    -Vietnam advertisements and speeches
         -John B. Connally
         -Melvin R. Laird
              -Bombing effectiveness
                  -Colson’s previous conversation with Laird
              -William J. Baroody, Jr.
              -Mining effectiveness
         -McGovern
              -South Vietnam
                  -Imposition of communist government
              -Amnesty
                  -Vulnerability
         -John N. Mitchell
              -Teeter's organization
                  -Youth vote's reaction on amnesty
                        -Jewish young people
                            -Canada
                        -McGovern
                        -The President’s view
                            -Advertisements
         -Connally
         -Laird
         -William P. Rogers
         -McGovern
    -Issues for advertisements
         -Amnesty
         -Vietnam
         -Prisoners of war [POWs]
              -Hanoi
         -Communist government in South Vietnam
-Amnesty
    -Youth vote
         -Possible losses
              -Morality
                                   4

         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Oct-06)

    -Raymond K. Price, Jr. office
         -Patrick J. Buchanan
-The President's forthcoming speech
    -Colson’s instructions
    -Peter Fosco
    -Bulding trades leaders
    -George Meany
-Colson to report to H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
    -Approval on speech wording
-Operations
    -Bumper stickers
         -Donald F. Rodgers
         -“Labor for Nixon”
-Amnesty
    -Issue's effectiveness
         -Colson’s view
    -Colson’s upcoming conversation with Haldeman
    -Instructions on issue's use
-Colson's analysis of press conference by the President,
October 5, 1972
    -Amnesty issue
         -McGovern’s defense
              -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
              -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
              -Canada
                   -Destination of US citizens avoiding draft
-Coming activities on Vietnam, amnesty, POW issues
    -Rogers
         -Meet the Press
    -Laird
         -Face the Nation
    -Approach
         -Issues to be used against McGovern
    -Rogers
         -Schedule
              -Colson’s previous conversation with Rogers
              -Henry A. Kissinger
    -Senate
         -Democrats
         -McGovern
              -President’s instructions
                                 5

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Oct-06)

                  -Use of direct quotes
                       -Vietnam
-Presentation of position
    -A. James Reichley
         -McGovern
-Direct quotes of McGovern
    -Nguyen Van Thieu
         -South Vietnam
              -Communists
    -Release of POWs
         -Hanoi
         -Louis P. Harris poll of US public reaction
-Colson's briefing of Laird's aide [Baroody?]
    -Laird
         -Face the Nation
-Coming activities
    -Senate debate
    -Connally and Elliot L. Richardson
         -Vietnam
    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
         -Anaheim, California rally
              -Network television coverage
    -Rogers
    -Laird
    -Spot advertisements
         -Vietnam
              -Hard hats
         -Liberal writers of advertisements
         -Haldeman's view of Colson
              -Newspaper advertisements
         -Anti-Ballistic Missile [ABM] advertisement of 1970
         -Harris
              -View of issues
-News summary
    -Washington Star
         -McGovern
              -Photograph
                  -Comparison to R. Sargent Shriver photograph
    -McGovern
         -Reaction to pressure
              -Possible mistakes
                                           6

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Oct-06)

                    -Amnesty
                       -Networks
                            -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
           -Advertisement people
              -Vietnam
                    -McGovern
              -Amnesty, POW issues
              -Vietnam
                    -Communists


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       McGovern approach on issues
          -Constituency
              -Democratic party
                   -The President’s view
                       -Establishment, suburbanites
          -Amnesty
              -Appeal
          -Commercial on Vietnam