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Start Date: 10-Oct-1972 8:24 PM

End Date: 10-Oct-1972 8:44 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: Camp David Study Table

148-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 8:24 pm to 8:44 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 148-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 148-6

Date: October 10, 1972
Time: 8:24 pm - 8:44 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 219-8]

        The President's schedule
            -The President's attempt to call Wilbur D. Mills

        Spending ceiling
            -House of Representatives
                -Vote passage
                     -Margin
            -Senate
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Oct-06)

        -Meeting with Senators
             -Timing
    -Senate
    -Public perception
        -Taxes
             -Public relations

1972 election
    -George S. McGovern’s foreign policy speech, October 10, 1972
        -R. Sargent Shriver
             -Possible trip to Hanoi
        -The President's response
             -Vietnam War
                  -South Vietnam
                       -Communists
                  -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                  -Amnesty
                       -Peace Corps
                       -Number of draftees, dead
        -Union response
             -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
             -Thomas W. ("Teddy") Gleason
             -Kenneth R. Lyons
             -Jesse M. Calhoon
                  -Opinions on McGovern
             -Gleason’s view
        -Henry A. Kissinger
             -Negotiations
                  -Paris
        -Labor leaders' views of McGovern
             -Media coverage
                  -Lyons
                  -Gleason
             -Gleason
                  -Vladimir I. Lenin Peace Prize
                  -Jane Fonda
                       -McGovern as President
                           -US Army
                           -South Vietnam
        -Colson’s view
        -Production values
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
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        -Hanoi
        -US bombing
        -North Vietnamese armored divisions
        -The President’s instructions
            -Domestic Council
            -Vietnam War
                -Louis P. Harris
                     -Jews
                -Hanoi
                -Cambodia, Laos
                -Hanoi
                     -Recent visit from Shriver
                -Thailand
                -South Vietnamese
                     -Hugh Scott’s statement
                     -North Vietnamese
                -Pierre Mendes-France
                     -Comparisons from McGovern
                          -France
                -Importance of issue
                     -Communists
                     -POWs
                     -French ethnics
                          -Upcoming speech by Melvin R. Laird
                          -Return of ethnic POWs
                               -Comparison
                                   -Filipino
                                        -American
                                   -South Vietnamese
                                   -North Vietnamese
                                        -Frenchmen

Laird’s schedule
    -Colson’s previous conversation with William J. Baroody, Jr.
    -Speech
         -Amnesty
         -POWs
             -Exploitation by North Vietnam
         -South Vietnam
             -Communists
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)


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       Issues
           -McGovern’s recent foreign policy speech
              -Amnesty
                   -POWs
                   -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
                        -Soldiers serving in Vietnam
                             -Number
              -Calhoon
                   -Reference to McGovern’s areas of strength
                        -Canada
                        -Sweden
                        -North Vietnam
              -Jay Lovestone
                   -George Meany
                        -Statement on Vietnam
                        -Gleason
                        -Calhoon
                        -Paul Hall
                             -Possible statement
                   -Colson’s request
                   -Fitzsimmons
                        -POWs

       Political activities of Frank L. Rizzo
            -Philadelphia
                 -Democrats
                      -Fundraising violations
                           -Media coverage
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

                         -McGovern
                            -Refund of money

        1972 election
            -Media coverage
                -Washington Post
                -Television networks
                     -Daniel L. Schorr


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        McGovern’s recent foreign policy speech
           -Vietnam War
               -Shriver
                    -Hanoi
           -Originality of comments