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Start Date: 15-Nov-1972 9:08 AM

End Date: 15-Nov-1972 9:14 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Camp David Study Table

153-028.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:08 am to 9:14 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 153-028 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 153-28

Date: November 15, 1972
Time: 9:08 am - 9:14 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 225-9]

       Vietnam negotiations
            -The President’s forthcoming letter to Nguyen Van Thieu
                 -Substance
                              -Subtleties
                        -Delivery
                        -Wording
                              -Tone
                                    -Use of “unalterable”
                                    -Invitation to San Clemente
                        -Nuances
                        -Delivery to Kissinger
                              -Means
                              -Timing
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Mar.-08)

                                                   Conversation No. 153-28 (cont’d)

             -Delivery to Thieu
       -Thieu’s tactics
             -Delays
                   -Task Force proposal
                   -Technical changes
                   -Meeting with Ellsworth F. Bunker
                   -Resumption of talks
       -Context
-Settlement agreement
       -Possible US-North Vietnamese bilateral deal
             -Thieu’s attitude
             -Problems
                   -Possible criticism
       -US withdrawal
             -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                   -Timing
                          -Vietnamization

           -Effect on Laos and Cambodia
     -Thieu’s tactics
           -Purpose
                 -Yield
                        -Timing
-Thieu
     -Relations with Bunker
     -Relations with Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
     -Relations with Gen. Frederick C. Weyand
     -The President’s letter
           -Tone
     -Recent letter to the President
     -US settlement agreement changes
           -Number
           -Study
                 -Timing
     -Tactics
           -Delays
                 -Relations with Bunker
                        -Technical changes
                              -Timing
                                     -The President’s letter
                                                       -35-

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                              Tape Subject Log
                                               (rev. Mar.-08)

                                                                            Conversation No.153-28 (cont’d)

                       -The President’s letter
                             -Contents
                                  -US action
                                         -Request of Thieu
                -Settlement agreement
                       -Problems with North Vietnamese
                             -Concessions
                             -Compared to Saigon