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Start Date: 9-Dec-1972 12:22 PM

End Date: 9-Dec-1972 12:58 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: Camp David Study Table

157-026.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 157-026 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 157-26

Date: December 9, 1972
Time: 12:22 pm - 12:58 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 235-4]


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       Democratic National Committee [DNC]
           -Voting
           -Robert S. Strauss
                  -McGovernites
           -George W. Mitchell
                  -Maine
                  -South
                  -Labor
                       -George Meany
                             -Support for Mitchell

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                            Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

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       Labor Department
            -Peter J. Brennan
                  -Recent hiring of assistant
                         -George Meany’s view
                  -Relationship with Meany
                  -Public reaction to appointment
            -Meany
                  -Relationship with George P. Shultz
            -Brennan
                  -Colson’s conversation with Shultz
                  -Press reaction
                  -Public reaction to appointment
                         -“Working man”
                               -Tokenism
                                     -Black, Mexican-American appointments
                         -Brennan’s conversation with unknown person in Florida
                               -Brennan’s schedule
                                     -Apollo XVII launch
                  -Donald F. Rodgers
                  -Martin Durkin
                  -Public reaction to appointment
                         -Brennan’s conversation with unknown person
                               -Party registration change


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       Democratic Party
           -DNC Chairman
           -Cleavage

       New Majority
           -Republican Party
           -Support for the President

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                         Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

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      Plane crash
            -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.’s wife, Dorothy
                  -Death
                  -Chicago
                  -Possible effect on Watergate trial
                        -Cancellation
                        -Delay
                  -Dorothy Hunt
                  -Family
                        -Catholicism
                              -Howard Hunt
                  -Possible effect on Watergate trial
                        -Delay


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      1972 election results
           -Percentage compared to Lyndon B. Johnson victory in 1964
           -Vote count
           -Press coverage
                  -Republican National Committee [RNC] chairman
           -Percentages
           -Arkansas
           -New Jersey
           -Missouri
           -Massachusetts
           -New York
           -Rhode Island
                  -Absentee ballots
           -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

      National economy
           -New York Times
           -Washington Post
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                            Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

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           -Media and press relations
                 -Networks
                 -New York Times and Washington Post
                        -1972 election
           -[Bureau of Labor Statistics] [BLS]
                 -1972 election
                 -Unemployment statistics
                        -1970, 1971, 1972
                              -Seasonal adjustments
                        -Brennan
                        -Meany
                        -Chart
                              -Brennan’s reaction
                 -Commissioner
                        -Geoffrey H. Moore
                              -Departure
                                    -Teaching
                              -Treasury Department
                                    -Colson’s conversation with Shultz
                 -Deputy Commissioner
                        -Albert E. Sindlinger
           -Economic news
                 -Timing
                        -1972 election
                        -Christmas
           -Retails sales
           -Public confidence
                 -The President’s role
                 -George S. McGovernites, media

      Press and media relations
            -Life
                  -Hugh S. Sidey
                       -Time
                              -Possible column
                                    -“Watching the President”
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                    Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

                            -Format
     -Sidey
           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s view
     -“Martin Z. Agronsky Show”
           -Establishment
     -International Brotherhood of Teamsters article
           -Hiring of Colson
           -Edward Bennett Williams
                  -Story source
                  -Firing as General Counsel
                  -Washington Post and New York Times article
           -Watergate case
                  -Edward Bennett Williams’s claim
                        -Colson
                              -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                                    -Washington Post and New York Times

Lobbying firms
     -Opponents
           -Lloyd N. Cutler
           -Clark M. Clifford
           -Washington Post
     -Charls E. Walker
           -Conversation with Colson
           -Public relations [PR]
                 -Colson’s firm
           -Shultz
           -Connally
           -Republicans
           -Opponents
                 -Williams
                 -Cutler
           -Colson’s role
           -“Kitchen Cabinet”
                 -Colson’s conversation with Walker
                        -1972 Republican National Convention
                 -Meetings with the President
     -Establishment
           -Clifford, Cutler, Williams
     -Williams
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                           Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

                 -Press

      Media relations
           -Media ratings
           -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                  -Edith Ephron
                        -The President’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                  -Compared to National Broadcasting Company [NBC], American
                   Broadcasting Company [ABC]
                  -Accuracy in media
                  -Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT] study
                        -Liberals
                        -Edwin Diamond
                  -Syracuse University study
                  -American Enterprise Institute [AEI] study
           -CBS
           -William Small’s inquiries at White House
                  -Colson’s activities
                        -Lawsuits
                        -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo’s friend
                        -Charles Crutchfield
                        -Patrick J. Buchanan’s comments\


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      Julie Nixon Eisenhower
            -Robert Novak article
                  -Media bias
                       -George S. McGovern gains

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      Media relations
           -Bias
                  -1972 campaign
                       -Robert D. Novak article
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                          Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

                       -Precincts
                              -Detroit
                       -Thomas W. Braden
                       -Novak
                  -Buchanan’s article
                       -James Keogh
                  -Kevin Phillip’s article
                       -Colson’s speech in New England
                       -CBS-Washington Post “axis”
                              -Effect
                                    -Media credibility
                       -Phillip’s readership


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       Study on 1972 campaign
            -Syracuse University
            -[First name unknown] McClure and [first name unknown] Patterson
            -Influence on voters
                   -Issues
                         -Watergate
                         -Vietnam negotiations
                               -Votes for McGovern
                         -Democrats for Nixon
                               -Spot advertisements
                                     -Hardhats
                                     -Welfare
                                     -Voter recollection
                               -Clark MacGregor
                                     -Negative advertisements
                                           -California
                                           -Michigan
                                           -Impact
                                           -Massachusetts
                                           -Haldeman
                                           -Robert J. Dole

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                             Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

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      Second term reorganization
           -[Internal Revenue Service] [IRS]
                  -George D. Webster
                         -Conversation with Colson
                               -The President’s meeting with Webster
                               -Departures
                               -Retribution
                         -Letter
                         -Background
                               -East Tennessee
                               -Republican
                               -Education
                                     -Maryville College
                                            -Compared to Whittier College
           -Solicitor General
                  -Robert H. Bork
                         -Colson’s viewing on television [TV]
                               -Bork’s physical appearance
                                     -Beard
           -Deputy Solicitor General
                  -[Jewell S. LaFontant]
                  -Bork
                         -Drafting of anti-busing position
                               -Network coverage
           -Frederic V. Malek meeting with Colson
                  -Polish-Americans
                  -Italian-Americans
           -Italian-Americans
                  -John A. Volpe
                  -John A. Scali
                         -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s effort
                               -William P. Rogers
                         -Compared to Brennan
                         -Malek
                  -Bias
                         -John A. Stella
                               -Harvard University
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
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                                                       Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

            -Malek
     -Claude S. Brinegar
            -Error
                   -Catholicism
     -Catholics
            -Scali
            -Brinegar
                   -Italian-Americans
            -Scali
            -Roy L. Ash
            -Brennan
     -Michael P. Balzano, Jr.
     -Polish-Americans
     -Immigration and Naturalization Service [INS]
            -Mitchell Kapelevski [sp?]
     -John A. Stastny, home builders
            -Colson’s conversation with James T. Lynn
     -Polish-Americans and Italian-Americans
            -The President’s meetings with Assistant Secretaries
                   -Photographs
                          -Distribution to local presses
     -Scali
     -Brennan
            -Publicity
                   -Compared to other Cabinet members
                   -News summaries
                   -Conservatives
                          -Hardhats
     -Scali
            -Press relations

Press and media relations
      -CBS
            -Daniel Rather
            -Robert Pierpont
            -Daniel L. Schorr
                 -Watergate stories
      -Life
            -The President’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower
            -Andrew Heiskell
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                 Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

            -Postal rates
                  -Bill
                         -US Postal Service
      -The President
            -Horatio Alger
            -1972 election
                  -Mandate
                  -Republican Party
                  -Media
                  -Establishment
            -Photograph coverage
                  -John F. Kennedy
-Clay T. (“Tom”) Whitehead
      -Networks
            -Economic power
      -Background
            -Rand Corporation
-Exclusion
-CBS
      -William S. Paley
            -Calls to Colson
-NBC
      -Possible conversation with Colson
-Howard K. Smith
      -Teamsters
            -Colson
                  -Tone
-John Chancellor
      -Colson
-CBS
      -Teamsters
            -Williams
                  -Washington Post
      -Rather
            -Administration handling
-ABC
-NBC
      -Chancellor
            -Possible conversation with Colson
      -Julian Goodman
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                         Conversation No. 157-26 (cont’d)

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