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Start Date: 30-Dec-1972 11:06 AM

End Date: 30-Dec-1972 11:42 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Scali, John A.

Recording Device: Camp David Study Table

158-040.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and John A. Scali talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:06 am to 11:42 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 158-040 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 158-40

Date: December 30, 1972
Time: 11:06 am - 11:42 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 237-51/238-1]

       Vietnam War
            -Cessation of US bombing north of 20th Parallel
                 -Announcement
                        -Gerald L. Warren’s press conference
                              -Henry A. Kissinger
                        -Preparation
                              -The President’s meeting with Warren and Col. Richard T.
                                Kennedy
                                     -Questions
                                          -Review
                        -Press relations
                              -Reaction
                              -Number of reporters
                              -Reaction
                        -Resumption of negotiations
                              -Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
                          -49-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                   Tape Subject Log
                     (rev. May-08)

                                           Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

            -Timing
            -Technical talks
                  -Timing
      -Questions
            -William B. Saxbe’s statement
            -US bombing of North Vietnam
                  -Halt
            -Resumption of negotiations
                  -Tone
                  -Responsibility for initiative
                        -John A. Scali’s view
                        -“No comment” response
            -US military operations
                  -“No comment” response
            -Kissinger’s view
                  -Kissinger’s conversation with Colson
                        -Scali
                        -Resumption of negotiations
                               -Responsibility for initiative
                                     -Message
                                             -Kissinger and Le Duc Tho
                                     -Kissinger’s press conference, December
                                      16, 1972
                  -Kissinger’s “peace is at hand” comment, October 26, 1972
                        -Warren
                        -Ronald L. Ziegler
                  -Warren’s performance
-Statement
      -Kissinger’s concern
            -Avoiding “crowing” about victory
                  -The President’s conversation with Kissinger
                        -Warren
                        -William P. Rogers’s schedule
                        -Melvin R. Laird’s schedule
                  -Congressmen and Senators
                        -Kissinger’s conversation with Colson
                  -Negotiations
                        -Statements
                               -Effect
                           -50-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                    Tape Subject Log
                      (rev. May-08)

                                            Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

-Resumption of negotiations
      -Kissinger’s press conference, December 16, 1972
             -Exchange of messages
                    -Warren’s statement
                          -Kennedy
                          -Scali
-Announcement
      -Scali
             -Knowledge, conversations with reporters
                    -Kissinger’s concerns
-Kissinger’s press relations
      -John F. Osborne
      -Palm Springs, California article
             -Kissinger’s telephone calls from the President
-Announcement
      -Wire reports
      -Warren audio report
             -Ziegler
             -Scali
             -Radio stories
             -Resumption of negotiations
                    -Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
                    -Ziegler
      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
      -John D. Ehrlichman
      -Ziegler
             -Kissinger’s role
                    -Warren
      -Warren’s performance
      -Scali’s conversation with Stewart M Hensley
             -Hensley’s article
      -Scali’s conversation with Robert Pierpoint
      -The President’s demeanor
             -Confidence in settlement agreement
                    -Decisiveness
                    -Kissinger
      -Wire reports
             -Resumption of negotiations
                    -Kissinger
                          -51-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                   Tape Subject Log
                     (rev. May-08)

                                          Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

                  -Timing
                  -Warren
-US bombing of North Vietnam
     -US policy
           -Scali
           -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
                  -Bombing and mining north of 20th Parallel
                        -Suspension
                              -Negotiations
                                   -Tone
                        -Resumption
                  -Possible Hensley article
           -Scali
-Announcement
     -Colson’s conversation with Scali
           -Hensley, Pierpoint
     -The President’s possible conversation with Scali
     -Scali’s view
           -Warren’s performance
                  -Tone
-Congressional relations
     -William E. Timmons
     -Colson’s conversation with Kissinger
           -Kissinger’s telephone calls
                  -Michael J. Mansfield
                  -Gerald R. Ford
                  -Barry M. Goldwater
                  -Carl B. Albert
                  -Ronald W. Reagan
                  -F. Edward Hebert
     -Thomas C. Korologos
           -Kennedy
     -US bombing of North Vietnam
           -William B. Saxbe’s statements
                  -Response
                        -Request for apology
                              -[Donald E. Lukens]
                              -Hugh Scott
                              -Colson’s conversation with Korologos
                          -52-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                   Tape Subject Log
                     (rev. May-08)

                                          Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

                                   -Appointments
                                         -Keith McNamara
                         -Effect
                               -Ohio
                               -“Doves”
                               -New York Times
                               -Washington Post
                               -New York Times
                                     -Reaction to US bombing of North
                                      Vietnam
                                            -Sweden, Australia
                                            -Britain, France, Italy
                                            -Democrats
                                                  -Study group
                                                  -Wilbur D. Mills’s
                                                    statement
                               -Hubert H. Humphrey
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
     -Criticism
            -Public relations [PR]
-US bombing of North Vietnam
     -PR
            -Negotiations
            -Build up
            -Demonstrations
                  -Press relations
                  -The President’s November 3, 1969 speech
-Congressional relations
     -Colson’s possible call to an unknown person
            -Colson’s conversation with Timmons, Korologos
     -Kissinger
     -Korologos
     -Telephone calls
            -Dr. Thomas E. (“Doc”) Morgan
                  -Robert J. Dole
                         -Republican National Committee [RNC]
            -William S. Mailliard
            -George D. Aiken
            -Korologos
                                            -53-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. May-08)

                                                             Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

                    -Announcement
                         -Press relations
                               -Scali’s note
                               -Hensley
                         -Gaylord Shaw, Associated Press [AP]
                         -William Gill, American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
                         -Pierpoint
                         -Richard G. Valeriani

       Scali
               -Conversation with the President
               -Appointment
                    -Ambassadorship to United Nations [UN]

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Congressional relations
                 -Mansfield
                        -The President’s conversation with Kissinger
                             -Briefing
                                    -Timing
                             -J. William Fulbright

The President talked with Scali at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 11:42 am.

       Vietnam War
            -US bombing of North Vietnam
                 -Reaction
                      -Appointments
                             -Letters
                                   -Scali
                                   -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                 -Cessation north of 20th Parallel
                      -Announcement
                             -Warren’s press conference
                                   -Kissinger
                                   -Preparation
                                          -The President’s meeting with Warren, Kennedy
                                   -Warren’s performance
                                          -Scali’s conversation with Kissinger
                       -54-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                Tape Subject Log
                  (rev. May-08)

                                        Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

               -Press relations
                      -Exchange of messages
                            -Kissinger’s press conference, December 16,
                             1972
                            -Christmas 1972
         -Press relations
               -Hensley
               -Shaw of AP
                      -The President’s demeanor
               -Gill
                      -Resumption of negotiations
                            -North Vietnam
                            -Liberals
               -Pierpoint
                      -Attribution to Scali
                      -Kissinger’s press conference, December 16, 1972
                      -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                      -North Vietnam’s signal
                      -The President’s demeanor
               -Valeriani
                      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
                      -Meeting with Scali
               -Critics
   -Statements
         -Kissinger’s concern
               -Avoiding “crowing” about victory
                      -The President’s conversation with Kissinger
                            -Congressional relations
                            -Commentators
                      -Negotiations
                            -North Vietnam
                                  -Power
                            -The President’s demeanor
                            -Realism
   -Announcement
         -Press relations
               -Warren’s press conference
                      -Scali’s conversation with Valeriani
                      -Surprise
                            -55-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                    Tape Subject Log
                      (rev. May-08)

                                             Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

                  -Congressional relations
-The President’s decision
      -Kissinger
      -Necessity
      -Negotiations
            -North Vietnam’s delays
                  -Duration
                  -Effect
                          -Return of POWs
                          -Military build up
                                 -Surface to air missiles [SAMs]
                          -Infiltration rates
                                 -Forthcoming US bombing
                                       -Trucks
                       th
-Cessation north of 20 Parallel
      -Announcement
            -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
                  -Consistancy
-Explanation
      -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
            -Bombing and mining north of 20th Parallel
                  -Suspension
                          -Negotiations
                  -Resumption
            -Ziegler
            -Possible Hensley article
-North Vietnam’s delays
      -Congressional relations
            -Cut off of funds
-Cessation north of 20th Parallel
      -Warren’s press conference
            -Kissinger’s schedule
                  -Consultation with the President
                          -Telephone calls
-Telephone calls
      -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
      -William S. White
      -Crosby S. Noyes
            -Washington Star
                         -56-

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                  Tape Subject Log
                    (rev. May-08)

                                         Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

     -Moynihan
            -State Department briefing
            -Meeting with scientists
                  -Washington Post
            -Harvard University
     -Korologos
            -Compared to Timmons
            -Morgan, Mailliard, Aiken
-Media relations
     -Scali
            -The President’s demeanor
                  -Determination, decisiveness
     -Announcement
            -Effect
     -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
     -John Chancellor
     -David Brinkley
     -[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
     -New York Times op-ed article
-Demonstration
     -Dean Francis Sayre
            -Reaction
                  -Telephone calls
                  -Washington National Cathedral
            -Possible appearance
                  -Likelihood
            -Reaction
                  -Charles P. Collins, III
                  -Blind veteran
                  -John M. O’Neill
            -Possible appearance
                  -Likelihood
-Colson’s possible call to John B. Connally
-Explanation
     -The President’s television [TV] appearance
            -Advisability
                  -Press and media relations
                         -Washington, DC
                  -North Vietnam
                                              -57-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. May-08)

                                                           Conversation No. 158-40 (cont’d)

                               -Kissinger’s view
                                     -Self-interest

       The President’s schedule
            -Call to Kissinger