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Start Date: 10-Jan-1972 4:12 PM

End Date: 10-Jan-1972 4:27 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Laird, Melvin R.

Recording Device: White House Telephone

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:34:23

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:49:46

018-047.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Melvin R. Laird talked on the telephone from 4:12 pm to 4:27 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 018-047 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 18-47

Date: January 10, 1972
Time: 4:12 pm - 4:27 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Melvin R. Laird.

[See Conversation No. 313-21H]

     Appointments
         -[David] Kenneth Rush
              -Talk with the President
                   -Forthcoming talk with Laird
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)



                      -Conflict of interest
          -Knowledge
                -Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
                -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                -Government
          -Respect for Laird
          -Laird’s forthcoming talk with Rush
          -John N. Mitchell
          -Business background
                -Union Carbide
          -Work with the Department of Defense
                -Procurement
                      -Robert C. Moot
          -Laird's conversation about Rush, William J. Porter
          -Work on Germany
          -Relationship
          -Talk with David Packard
          -Intelligence
          -Jane (Smith) Rush
                -Barbara Laird
          -Desire to stay in Bonn
                -Mitchell
          -Trustworthiness
          -Forthcoming meeting with Laird
          -Conflict of interest
                -Mitchell
                -Forced sale of assets
                      -Capital gains tax
                      -Packard
          -Financial holdings
                -Stocks
                      -Union Carbide
                -Disposal
                      -John C. Stennis
                -Union Carbide
                      -Defense contracts

Vietnam
     -Troop withdrawals
          -Henry A. Kissinger’s talk with Laird
          -Numbers
               -Forthcoming announcement
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                             -Timing
                       -Statement in April
                -Vietnamization
                -Number
                       -Change in monthly rate
                -Laird's briefing
           -Laird's briefing
                -North Vietnamese offensive
                       -Tet
                       -South Vietnamese counter-offensive
                             -Cambodia, Laos
                       -US responses
                             -Air power
                -Tone
                       -Congress
                       -Confidence
                       -Vietnamization
                -North Vietnamese actions
                       -South Vietnam
                       -Laos
                       -Cambodia

    Laos
           -Bombing
               -Tonnage
                    -B’52s
               -Effectiveness
               -Reports


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 4s ]


    LAOS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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                     -G. McMurtrie Godley
                -Psychological impact

    Troop withdrawal announcement
         -The President’s instructions to Gerald L. Warren
         -Laird's briefing
              -Meeting with the President
              -The President's role
                     -Possible diplomatic efforts
                           -Prisoners of war [POWs]
              -Taping for TV

    Rush

    Leak
           -Laird’s and Mitchell’s possible meeting with the President
           -[Yeoman Charles E. Radford]
           -Damage
           -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
           -The President’s view
                 -Previous administrations
           -Admiral Robert O. Welander

    Laird's briefing
         -Meeting with the President
         -Subject
                -POWs
                     -Deadline
                -North Vietnamese positions in Paris
                     -George S. McGovern
                     -Nguyen Van Thieu
                     -Bombing
                     -Aid to South Vietnam
                - North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
                     -Meetings with Porter
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)