Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 193 › Conversation 193-010

Nixon phone call with Dent on Moscow Summit and Vietnam War

Wednesday, June 7, 1972 · 9:41 AM–9:48 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 20 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Dent, Harry S.Conversation193-010 on Tape 193 (tape position 01:17:52–01:38:06)StartWednesday, June 7, 1972 at 9:41 AMEndWednesday, June 7, 1972 at 9:48 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 193-010 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Harry S. Dent discuss the positive political reception of Nixon's recent summit in Moscow and the administration's ongoing military strategy in Vietnam. The conversation emphasizes the public's approval of the President's firm negotiating stance regarding missile reductions and infrastructure requirements. They also evaluate the viability of a campaign schedule for a physically incapacitated political figure, concluding that a traditional campaign approach is likely untenable.

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NARA Description

On June 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Harry S. Dent met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:41 am to 9:48 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 193-010 of the White House Tapes.

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Conversation No. 193-10

Date: June 7, 1972
Time: 9:41-9:48 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Harry S. Dent.

[See Conversation No. 133-7; three items have been withdrawn]

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Coldwater was down at the phone yesterday and he's in good spirits.
He's gonna support us on that.
Moscow thinks he's got a few technical questions, but he says he had a great trip.
I think that's turning out pretty well, don't you?
If you go around, how do you find the reaction?
...recently, just because I was in Moscow or what was done or what, what is it?
What's your analysis on that?
Um, yeah, they like that, don't they?
And they like the fact we're still mining up the bottom of Asterix till we get back to Vortex.
and then, but they don't want to surrender, so it's sort of a mixed bag.
We can have some ups and downs between on that because, you know, the Russians may screw around with the Chinese, but on the other hand, we've got them both boxing it pretty good.
If we wanted two of them, then we'd go the other way and show them, and they know it.
Well, they know, too, that I drove awful hard parts over there, you know.
We didn't settle that lease because we didn't get the infrastructure wrong.
Well, that's a pretty good thing to say.
You know, and that we insisted on the sub things on their retiring 200 old missiles.
Well, that's pretty good stuff.
Oh, yeah, we'll have something there.
there.

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very well.
They got out of it.
Well, one thing, he just can't campaign, Harry.
I don't care how.
Don't you agree?
Or could he?
I suppose in three months, he'll get in a wheelchair, but... And he could last time.

Also recorded on June 7, 1972

  • 133-005 9:22 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:22 am to 9:38 am.
  • 193-008 9:22 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:22 am to 9:38 am.
  • 133-006 9:38 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:38 am and 9:41 am.
  • 133-007 9:38 AM · 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Harry S. Dent talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:38 am and 9:41 am.
  • 193-009 9:38 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:38 am and 9:41 am.
  • 133-008 9:48 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 10:08 am.
  • 193-011 9:48 AM · 39 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 10:08 am.
  • 133-009 10:08 AM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Robert H. Finch talked on the telephone at Camp David from 10:08 am to 10:27 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 193-010, June 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/193-010 (accessed October 31, 2026).