Conversation: 194-001
Prev: 193-028 Next: 194-002Start Date: 23-Jun-1972 6:48 PM
End Date: 23-Jun-1972 8:40 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Sanchez, Manolo;Recording Device: Camp David Hard Wire
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:06:55
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:57:18
NARA Description:
On June 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 6:48 pm and 8:40 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-001 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 194-1
Date: June 23, 1972
Time: Unknown between 6:48 and 8:40 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Kissinger
-Value to nation
-The President’s view
-Efforts
-Trips
-Risks
-William P. Rogers
-Dealings with Kissinger
Vietnam peace negotiations
-Private meeting with North Vietnamese
-Timing
-Plenary session
-Nguyen Van Thieu
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time.
Refreshment
Sanchez left at an unknown time.
Vietnam peace negotiations
-Schedule
-Message from North Vietnam
-Timing of meetings
-Plenary session
-Le Duc Tho, Xuan Thuy
-Announcement by President
-Private meetings
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Rogers
-Messages from People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Dobrynin's call to Kissinger
-Nikolai V. Podgorny’s visit to North Vietnam
-Message
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
Conv. No. 194-1 (cont.)
-North Vietnamese propaganda
-Settlement of war
-George S. McGovern
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 10s ]
SANCHEZ ENTERED AT AN UNKNOWN TIME.
SANCHEZ LEFT AT AN UNKNOWN TIME.
SANCHEZ ENTERED AT AN UNKNOWN TIME.
SANCHEZ LEFT AT AN UNKNOWN TIME.
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Vietnam peace negotiations
-Kissinger’s trip to PRC
-Kissinger’s meeting with Chou En-lai
-Cease fire
-Announcement for next day
-Soviet reaction
-Kissinger’s trip to PRC
-Kissinger’s first meeting with Chou En-lai
-New York Times editorial
-The President’s view
-PRC and US policy
-Kissinger’s first meeting with Chou En-lai
-President’s May 8, 1972 proposal
-Final date for war
-McGovern
-Chances of victory
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
Conv. No. 194-1 (cont.)
-John K. Fairbank [?]
-Cuts in US defense budget
-Kissinger’s second meeting with Chou En-lai
-Vietnam
-Kissinger’s position
-President’s view of military situation
-US-PRC relations
-Detente
-Kissinger’s third meeting with Chou En-lai
-Vietnam
-Chou’s support of North Vietnam
-Possible ceasefire
-Soviet Union
-North Vietnamese military action
-Kissinger’s response
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Kissinger’s fourth meeting with Chou En-lai
-Draft announcement
-North Vietnamese actions
-PRC assessments of US proposal
-PRC-North Vietnam relations
-President’s May 8, 1972 proposal
-PRC view compared with Russians
-Kissinger’s message to North Vietnamese in Paris
-Timing of meeting
-Reply
-Le Duc Tho and Xuan Thuy’s schedule
-Proposed meeting schedule
-Arrangements
-Public session
-Private meetings
-The President’s schedule
-Effect on Democrats
-President's suggestion
-John N. Mitchell
-Plenary sessions
-Private sessions
-Podgorny
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
Conv. No. 194-1 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 42s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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Vietnam
-Troop announcements
-Melvin R. Laird and Rogers
-Podgorny's trip to North Vietnam
-Kissinger's trip to PRC
-Kissinger's forthcoming briefing on PRC trip
-Points discussed
-Vietnam
-Soviet Union
-Letter from Brezhnev
-Relationship with President
-Podgorny
-President's proposals to North Vietnam
-Dobrynin's call to Kissinger
-Brezhnev's letter
-Negotiations with North Vietnam
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-US relations with Soviet Union and PRC
-Targets
-Kissinger's talk with Chou En-lai
-Flights over North Vietnam
-Progress in negotiations
-Kissinger’s view
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Ceasefire
-POWs
-Mistreatment
-Publicity
Kissinger's talks with Chou En-lai
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
Conv. No. 194-1 (cont.)
-Soviet Union
-President’s policy
-India-Pakistan War
-McGovern
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 41s ]
US-PRC RELATIONS
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-Relationship with Kissinger
-Compared with Soviet Union
-Soviet Union
-Pressure on Iran
-Mohammed Reza Pahlavi [Shah of Iran]
-Iraq, Syria, India
-Withdrawal of US forces in Far East
-Japan and Korea
-PRC position
-Vietnam
-Korea comparison
-Possible joint actions
-Soviet Union
-Relationship with US
-West Germany
-Christian Democratic Union [CDU]
-Gerhardt Schroeder
-Forthcoming visit to the PRC
-Franz Josef Strauss
-Europe
-Left-wing parties
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
Conv. No. 194-1 (cont.)
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
-US-PRC relations
-Kissinger’s view
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with press
US foreign policy
-Kissinger's role
-President's role
-The President’s speech on Vietnam, November 3, 1972
-The President’s efforts
-Cambodia
-Laos
-Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
-Vietnam
-Clark MacGregor
-Major decisions
-John F. Kennedy's decisions
-Compared to the President
Vietnam
-North Vietnamese attack on Hue
Kissinger's schedule
-Movie
-Clint Eastwood
Kissinger left at an unknown time before 8:40 pm.