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Conversation: 197-017

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Start Date: 22-Jul-1972 3:05 PM

End Date: 22-Jul-1972 3:57 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Cox, Tricia NixonKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Camp David Hard Wire

197-017a.mp3

197-017b.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 3:57 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 197-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 197-17

Date: July 22, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:05 pm and 3:57 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.


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     Forthcoming press briefings
          -F-15 program
                -Voting records
                     -George S. McGovern
                     -Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie
          -McGovern
                -Need for debates
                     -The President’s view in 1964
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                   -International conditions
                        -Negotiations
                        -National interest
              -North Vietnam
                   -Jack N. Anderson's column July 22, 1972
                        -Charles W. Colson

    McGovern
       -Forthcoming briefings
             -Humphrey
                 -Staff
                 -Henry A. Wallace

    Haldeman's health
        -California

    The President's health


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    The President's schedule
         -Press conferences
               -Networks
                     -[McGovern]
               -Timing
                     -Republican National Convention
               -Political questions
                     -Equal time
                     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                -Foreign policy
         -Ronald W. Reagan
               -Call to the President
               -Possible meeting
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                   -Foreign trip
              -Location
              -The President's location
                   -Camp David
              -Edwin Meese, III's conversation with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
              -The President’s view

    Reagan
        -Foreign trip
               -Unknown person
        -The President’s view
        -Political influence in California
        -Possible role with administration
               -Ambassadorship


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    The President's schedule
         -Henry Kearns
               -Annual report
                     -Timing
                         -1972 election
                         -Budget
         -Drug enforcement reports
               -Timing
               -Polls
         -Secret Service reception
               -Wives
         -Golf
               -George Meany
         -Camp David
         -Unknown beach trip
               -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
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      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Revenue sharing testimony
      -Mayors
           -[Moon Landrieu] of New Orleans
           -Sam Massell of Atlanta
           -Louie Welch of Houston
           -Roman S. Gribbs of Detroit
           -Frank W. Burke of Louisville
           -Harry G. Haskell of Wilmington
           -Henry W. Maier of Milwaukee
           -John W. Driggs of Phoenix
           -Joseph L. Alioto of San Francisco
           -Wesley C. Uhlman of Seattle
           -Dayton Lee Alexander of Syracuse
           -Roy Martin of Norfolk
           -William D. Schaeffer of Baltimore
           -Norman Y. Mineta of San Jose
           -Location
           -Timing
                -Senate Finance Committee
-Future Farmers of America [FFA] state presidents
      -Possible arrangements
           -Timing
                -Press conference
           -Cabinet Room
           -Mrs. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox
-Representatives from Baltic States
      -Anniversary of de jure recognition
      -Henry A. Kissinger
      -Haig's views
      -Soviet Union
      -Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia
      -Possible presentation to the President
           -Independence
      -Haig
           -Kissinger
      -Agnew
-Dr. John A. Hannah
-Secret Service
      -Timing
-Press conference
-FFA
-Hannah
-Secret Service
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               -Mrs. Nixon schedule
         -Property Review Board
               -Legacy of Parks program
               -John D. Ehrlichman's views
               -Property turnover
                     -Texas, California, Florida, New Jersey
               -Publicity
         -Congressmen
               -Incumbents
                     -Photograph opportunity
         -Telephone call to Golda Meir
               -Satellite
               -Timing
               -Value
               -Dean Burch
               -Kissinger
                     -Politics
                          -Arabs
         -Girls' Nation
               -Boys' Nation
         -Attorney General's conference on crime reduction
               -Justice Department
               -Timing
                     -Television
               -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.’s proposal
               -Ehrlichman
               -Talking points
         -Lowell Thomas
               -Norman Vincent Peale
               -Kissinger
         -Sir Alexander F. Douglas-Home
               -United Nations [UN] General Assembly
               -Andrei A. Gromyko
               -Timing
                     -Breakfast
         -Goals
               -Publicity


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     Agnew
         -Announcement
         -Schedule
               -Rod Laver
               -Trip
         -Previous meeting
         -Speech in Portland
               -Press
         -Relations with White House
               -Haldeman’s view
         -Schedule
               -Fifty state tour
                     -Airplane
                     -Airports
                          -Los Angeles, South Dakota, San Bernardino, Ontario, California,
                                 Orange County
                          -Motorcade
                          -California

Tricia Nixon Cox talked with the President.

[Conversation No. 197-17A]

[See Conversation No. 136-15; one item has been withdrawn from this conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Agnew
         -Possible meeting with Haldeman
         -Aides
               -Staff
               -Secret Service
                    -Haldeman's role
                    -Bryce N. Harlow
                    -Haldeman's notes from July 21, 1972 meeting

     The President's schedule
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         -Johnny Cash
              -William E. Brock, III
              -Drugs
         -American Health Congress
              -Chicago
              -Health program
                   -Congress
              -Health care costs
              -US-Soviet health agreement
              -Nursing homes
         -Audience size
              -Hospital and nursing home representatives


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    Vietnam
         -Prisoners of war [POWs]
         -McGovern
               -Position
                    -US troops
                         -Reintroduction
                                -Problems
                                      -Nguyen Van Thieu


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The President talked with the Camp David operator.

[Conversation No. 197-17B]

[See Conversation No. 136-16]

The President talked with Kissinger.

[Conversation No. 197-17C]

[See Conversation No. 136-17]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Kissinger


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     Clark MacGregor
          -Possible role with administration
                -Administrative ability
                -Qualities
                -Attorney General
                     -Cabinet

     George W. Romney
         -Meeting with Ehrlichman July 22, 1972
              -Tenure in office
                   -1972 election
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         -Housing program
              -Congress
         -Housing scandal
         -Tenure in office
              -Budget

    Cabinet and White House staff transitions
        -Possible changes
              -Ehrlichman
              -Timing
                    -Inauguration
                    -Election
                         -1968
              -Thomas E. Dewey
        -Franklin B. Lincoln, Jr.'s letter to Rose Mary Woods
              -Transition books
              -McGovern
        -Lyndon B. Johnson, Hubert H. Humphrey
        -Ehrlichman
        -Resignations
              -Timing
                    -1972 election
              -William P. Rogers
                    -Cabinet
              -Haldeman
                    -Staff
        -Possible transition
              -Lincoln
              -Brookings Institution
              -McGovern

    1972 election
        -The President’s schedule
               -Debates
                   -Necessity


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    McGovern's schedule
       -Return from Miami
             -Democratic National Convention
             -Secret Service
             -Defense Department
             -Use of Andrews Air Force Base
                   -Chartered plane
             -Secret Service protection
                   -Treatment of the President in 1968
                   -Robert F. Kennedy assassination
                   -Page [sp?] Terminal
              -Briefing

    Secret Service
         -Possible staff changes
               -James J. Rowley
               -Lilburn E. (“Pat”) Boggs
                     -Haldeman’s view

    Possible personnel changes
         -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
         -Richard G. Kleindienst
               -Finances
         -Secret Service
               -Boggs
               -Robert H. Taylor

    Watergate
        -Jeb Stuart Magruder
              -Interrogation
              -Possible Grand jury appearance
        -Grand jury
              -Possible indictments
                    -Timing
        -John W. Dean, III
              -Conversations
                    -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, John N. Mitchell, lawyers, Henry E. Petersen,
                        Gray
        -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
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              -W. Mark Felt
                  -Possible tests

    Secret Service
         -Boggs's role
               -William L. Duncan
         -Duncan
               -Compared to Taylor
         -Taylor
         -McGovern's detail
               -White House infiltration
                    -Edward M. Kennedy
                    -Frank F. Mankiewicz
                    -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.


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    Staff salaries
          -Claire Crawford's article
                -David N. Parker's salary
                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox’s schedule
                      -Non-political and political events
                      -Mrs. Nixon
          -William R. Codus
          -Practices of Lyndon B. Johnson and Humphrey
          -Hatch Act
                -Codus, Parker
                -Haldeman, Colson

    Crippling strikes legislation
         -Colson's conversation with James D. Hodgson
               -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
               -Robert W. Packwood
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               -Subsequent conversation with Hodgson
                     -Laurence H. Silberman's subsequent conversation with Packwood
         -The President's conversation with George P. Shultz
         -The President’s meeting with Teamsters
               -Colson
               -Ehrlichman
         -Possible conversation with Packwood
               -House of Representatives
               -Shultz
         -Colson
               -Political style
         -Welfare reform
               -Ehrlichman

    Colson

    Crippling strikes legislation
         -Hodgson
               -Views
                     -Shultz
               -Colson
               -Packwood
         -Colson's conversations
               -William E. Timmons, Thomas C. Korologos
                     -Michael J. Mansfield
         -Packwood

    Reagan
        -Possible meeting
              -Story
                   -Welfare family
        -The President’s view
        -Haldeman’s view
              -California
                   -University matters
        -Possible role with administration
              -Ambassadorship
              -Edwin Reinecke


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     Senate
          -Leadership
               -Hugh Scott
                    -Age
               -Robert P. Griffin
               -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
               -Charles H. Percy

     Percy

     Crippling strikes legislation
          -Packwood
                -Teamsters
          -Shultz's conversation with Meany


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     Public relations
          -Poll standing
                 -George H. Gallup
          -Trips to People's Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union
          -Tricia Nixon Cox’s wedding
          -Television
                 -Vietnam speeches
                 -Press conferences
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          -Vietnam
                -As issue
          -National economy
                -Food prices
                -[James] Harold Wilson
                      -Loss of office
                -Inflation
                      -Impact
                           -Buying power
                -Mortgages
                -Trend


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     The President's schedule
          -The President's travel
                -Defense bases
                -President's previous PRC and Soviet Union trips
                      -Republican National Convention program
                          -Mrs. Nixon
          -Tapes
                -Patricia B. McKee
          -Dictation

Haldeman left at an unknown time after 4:23 pm.
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