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Start Date: 13-Nov-1972 3:08 PM

End Date: 13-Nov-1972 3:55 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Camp David Hard Wire

224-001.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 3:08 pm to 3:55 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 224-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 224-1

Date: November 13, 1972
Time: 3:08 pm - 3:55 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

        Second term reorganization
             -Charles W. Colson
                   -Role
                          -Consultation
                                -Personnel
                                -“On call” status
                                       -Difficulty
                                             -Family
                         -Age
                         -Personality
                         -Intelligence
                         -Qualifications
                         -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
                                -Foundations
                                       -Tax exempt status
                                             -Patrick J. Buchanan
             -Buchanan
                   -Role
                         -Communications director
                                -Judgment
                                       -Responsibility
                          -Memoranda of 1972 election
                          -Instability
                                -Benefits
                         -Comparison with Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                         -Analyst
             -Investigations
                   -Foundations
                          -Tax-exempt status
                          -Common Cause
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                              Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

                                -Ford Foundation
                                      -Comparison to investigations of the White House
                                           -Watergate
                                           -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
                          -IRS
                          -Katherine L. Graham
                          -Psychological effect
                          -Public opinion
                               -Buchanan
                                      -Tax-exempt status
                                           -Tax payers

        The President's schedule
             -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time before 3:53 pm

              -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger
                  -Meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                         -Arrival
                              -Andrews Air Force Base
                         -Timing

         Vietnam negotiations
              -Agnew

        Second term reorganization
             -Proposed meeting with the President
                   -Basic thinking
                         -The President’s agreement
                    -Organization mechanics
                         -The President’s interest
                         -Public relations signals
                               -Importance
                         -Importance
                   -John D. Ehrlichman
                   -Roy L. Ash
             -Ash
                   -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
                   -Appointment
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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                       Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

             -Reluctance
      -Reorganization
      -Preferred role
             -International economics
                   -Staff work
                          -Comparison to Peter G. Peterson
                                -Europe
                          -Treasury secretary
                   -Proposed ad hoc summit organization
                   -Policy making group
                          -General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
                          -European Economic Community [EEC]
                          -Commitments from heads of state
                          -Purpose
                                -Rules of economic competition
                                      -“Economic peacekeeping”
                                      -Comparison to the Geneva Conventions on
                                       warfare
                          -Ash
                                -The President’s representative
                          -Informality
                          -Kissinger
                                -Political judgment
                                -Economic judgment
                          -Importance
                                -Ash
                          -John B. Connally
                          -George P. Shultz
-Peter M. Flanigan
      -Confirmation
      -Role
            -State Department
      -Abilities
      -State Department
      -Frank C. Carlucci
             -State Department
             -[David] Kenneth Rush
      -Confirmation
            -J. William Fulbright's committee
      -Methods of operations
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                             Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

                            -Concern
                    -Role
                          -Special Assistant to the President
                               -State Department reorganization
                                      -Carlucci
                                      -Kissinger
                               -Arrogance
                               -Social Status
                               -Confirmation
                               -Rush
                               -Job title
              -Mail operation
                    -Rose Mary Woods

        White House staff
             -Woods
                  -Camp David villa accommodations
                  -Relations with staff
                  -Work load
                  -Trip to Camp David
                   -Job performance


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        1972 Election
             -Supporters
                   -Thank you letters
                         -Format

        The President’s schedule
             -Dr. William O. Chase

        1972 Election
             -Mail to the President
             -Public reaction
             -New York

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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                           Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

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       Celebrities
            -Joe Namath
            -Leonid I. Brezhnev, Chou En-lai, Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir
            -Willy Brandt, Edward R.G. Heath
            -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
            -[Pope Paul VI] Giovanni Buttista Motini
            - Kissinger
                   -Appearance at Rusty Pelican, Key Biscayne
                   -Recognition
                        -Comparison to the President

       White House social affairs
            -White House staff, press parties
            -Public opening
                  -Problems
            -Receptions
                 -Invitations
                 -1973 Inauguration period
                 -Christmas
                 -Washington, DC residents
                 -Tourists
                         -Invitations
                               -Washington, DC, Maryland, Virginia
                               -Iowa, Oregon, Alabama
                 -Labor
            -Old elite
            -Washington elite
            -Republican elite
            -Christmas tours of White House
                   -Youth
            -John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
                  -Youth
                         -Uline Arena
                         -Concert
            -1973 Inaugural concert
                   -Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra
                   -Youth concert
                                    -6-

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                     Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

           -The President’s appearance at concerts
           -Party
                 -Enthusiasm
          -Eugene Ormandy
          -Country music concert
                 -South, Midwest
          -Gospel music
          -Karen and Richard Carpenter
          -Johnny Cash
                -Youth
     -1973 Inaugural ball
          -Entertainment
          -Purpose
                 -Famous people

The President's schedule
     -Meeting with Connally
     -Meeting with Colson
     -Meeting with Kissinger
     -Colson
           -Haldeman briefing
           -Discussion of second term
                  -Secretary of Labor
     -Connally

Second term reorganization
     -FredericV. Malek

1973 Inauguration
     -Jeb Stuart Magruder
           -Malek
     -Advance men
     -District of Columbia committee
           -1972 election
     -Arrangements
           -Advance men
                  -Military aides
           -Bands
     -Parade
           -Planning
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                            Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

                  -Bands
                        -Rose Parade
                              -Unknown person
                        -Representation
                              -New Majority
                                    -Polish customs
                                    -Italian customs
                                    -Lithuanian-Americans
                                    -Cuban-Americans
                              -States
                                    -Governors
                                    -Themes
                                           -Nationalities
                  -Planning
                        -Leonard Grament
                        -Dwight L. Chapin
                        -Republican National Convention
                        -Advance men
                  -Blacks
                        -Grambling University Award
                  -Press plan
                        -Colson

       The President's schedule
            -Colson
            -Malek
            -Kissinger and Haig
            -Colson
                  -Meeting with Haldeman
            -November Group
                  -[Peter H. Dailey]
                  -1973 Inauguration


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       1972 Election
            -The President’s thank you letters
                  -Republicans
                                             -8-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                        Conversation No. 224-1 (cont’d)

                   -Woods
                        -Ryan family
                        -Edward O. Sullivan III

        White House social affairs
             -Commander [first name unknown] Jackson
                  -Hors d’oeuvres

        1972 Election
             -Date

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Haldeman left at 3:55 pm.