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Conversation: 246-037

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Start Date: Thursday, April 8, 1971 12:09 AM

End Date: Thursday, April 8, 1971 12:59 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Scott, HughByrd, Robert C.Griffin, Robert P.Ford, Gerald R.Albert, Carl B.Timmons, William E.MacGregor, ClarkZiegler, Ronald L.Whelihan, J. BruceKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:38:44

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:24:10

246-037.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Robert C. Byrd, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Carl B. Albert, William E. Timmons, Clark MacGregor, Ronald L. Ziegler, J. Bruce Whelihan, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:09 pm to 7:59 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 246-037 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 246-037
Date: April 7, 1971
Time: 7:09 pm - 7:59 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Hugh Scott, Robert C. Byrd, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Carl B.
Albert, William E. Timmons, and Clark MacGregor
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Scott
Greetings
Allen J. Ellender
-Schedule
Photo session
President’s office
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 7:10
J. Bruce Whelihan and members of the press entered at 7:11 pm
General conversation
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 7:12 pm
Kissinger’s schedule
-Media
Whelihan and the members of the press left at 7:13 pm
President’s conversation with Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, April 6, 1971
President’s schedule
-Congressional leaders
-Richard B. Russell
-Ellender
-Meetings with the President
Vietnam
-President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
-Troop withdrawals
-Korea
-Cambodian incursion
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] performance
-Effect on North Vietnamese military capability
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-President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
-Rate
-United States’ goals
-Troop withdrawal
-Date
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Flexibility
-South Vietnam
-Possible actions by Congress
-Responsibility
-POWs
-President’s options
-Albert and Ford
-Timing
-POWs
-Congress
-Negotiations
-President’s options
-Combat forces
-Laotian incursion
-Effect
-President’s policies
-Air strikes
-Reductions since 1969
-Laos
-Lam Son
-Figures
-Casualties
-Reductions
-Tet Offensive
-Timing
-Negotiations
-Prospects
-President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
-POWs
-Timing
-South Vietnamese military activities
-Casualties
-Congressional action
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Possible effects
-Unknown man
-Trip to Bonn
-POWs
-Melvin R. Laird
-Possible United States’ withdrawal
-Troop withdrawals
-Timing
-United States’ policy
-Residual forces
-Korea
-POWs
-Timing
-POWs
-Issue
-United States-held prisoners
-Troop withdrawal
-South Vietnamese military capability
-United States’ bargaining position
-Troop withdrawal
-Difficulties
-Negotiations
-Thailand
-United States’ treaty responsibilities
-Philippines, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan
-South Vietnam
-US forces
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[Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number
LPRN-T-MDR-2014-015. Segment declassified on 01/10/2018. Archivist: MAS]
[National Security]
[246-037-w001]
[Duration: 30s]
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Thailand
-Why can’t US pull forces out
-Limited troops in Vietnam
-President’s opinion
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Vietnam
-Laos
-Casualties
-Cambodia
-French
-South Vietnamese incursion
-Air campaign
-Prospects
-Congress
-Possible actions
-Responsibility
Donald W. Riegle, Jr.
House of Representatives
-Ford and Albert
General conversation
Ziegler and Kissinger left at 7:43 pm
Forthcoming calls to Senate Committees
-Laird
-William P. Rogers
General conversation
Scott’s efforts
MacGregor’s conversation with Laird
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Scott, et al. left at 7:59 pm