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Start Date: 7-Apr-1971 7:09 PM

End Date: 7-Apr-1971 7:59 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Scott, HughByrd, Robert C.Griffin, Robert P.Ford, Gerald R.Albert, Carl B.Timmons, William E.MacGregor, ClarkZiegler, Ronald L.Whelihan, J. BruceKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:38:44

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:24:10

246a.mp3

246b.mp3

246c.mp3

246d.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Robert C. Byrd, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Carl B. Albert, William E. Timmons, Clark MacGregor, Ronald L. Ziegler, J. Bruce Whelihan, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:09 pm to 7:59 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 246-037 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 246-37

Date: April 7, 1971
Time: 7:09 pm - 7:59 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Hugh Scott, Robert C. Byrd, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Carl B.
Albert, William E. Timmons, and Clark MacGregor

     Scott

     Greetings

     Allen J. Ellender
          -Schedule

     Photo session

     President’s office

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 7:10
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 9/08)




J. Bruce Whelihan and members of the press entered at 7:11 pm

     General conversation

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 7:12 pm

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Media

Whelihan and the members of the press left at 7:13 pm

     President’s conversation with Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, April 6, 1971

     President’s schedule
          -Congressional leaders
                -Richard B. Russell
                -Ellender
                -Meetings with the President

     Vietnam
          -President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
          -Troop withdrawals
                -Korea
                -Cambodian incursion
                -Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] performance
                -Effect on North Vietnamese military capability
          -President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
          -Rate
          -United States’ goals
                -Troop withdrawal
                     -Date
                     -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                     -Flexibility
                     -South Vietnam
                -Possible actions by Congress
                     -Responsibility
                     -POWs
                     -President’s options
                     -Albert and Ford
                -Timing
                     -POWs
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. 9/08)



            -Congress
      -Negotiations
      -President’s options
      -Combat forces
-Laotian incursion
      -Effect
      -President’s policies
-Air strikes                                           Conv. No. 246-37 (cont.)
      -Reductions since 1969
      -Laos
      -Lam Son
      -Figures
-Casualties
      -Reductions
            -Tet Offensive
      -Timing
-Negotiations
      -Prospects
      -President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
      -POWs
      -Timing
-South Vietnamese military activities
      -Casualties
-Congressional action
      -Possible effects
      -Unknown man
            -Trip to Bonn
-POWs
      -Melvin R. Laird
      -Possible United States’ withdrawal
-Troop withdrawals
      -Timing
            -United States’ policy
                  -Residual forces
      -Korea
      -POWs
      -Timing
-POWs
      -Issue
      -United States-held prisoners
      -Troop withdrawal
      -South Vietnamese military capability
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



              -United States’ bargaining position
         -Troop withdrawal
              -Difficulties
                    -Negotiations
              -Thailand
                    -United States’ treaty responsibilities
                          -Philippines, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan
              -South Vietnam                                       Conv. No. 246-37 (cont.)
         -US forces


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 30s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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         -Laos
         -Casualties
         -Cambodia
              -French
              -South Vietnamese incursion
                     -Air campaign
              -Prospects
         -Congress
              -Possible actions
                     -Responsibility

    Donald W. Riegle, Jr.

    House of Representatives
        -Ford and Albert

    General conversation
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                                         Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 9/08)




Ziegler and Kissinger left at 7:43 pm

      Forthcoming calls to Senate Committees
           -Laird
           -William P. Rogers

      General conversation                                                Conv. No. 246-37 (cont.)

      Scott’s efforts

      MacGregor’s conversation with Laird

Scott, et al. left at 7:59 pm