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Start Date: 14-Apr-1971 4:20 PM

End Date: 14-Apr-1971 5:10 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:22:34

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:12:33

248a.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:20 pm to 5:10 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 248-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 248-16

Date: April 14, 1971
Time: 4:20 pm - 5:10 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger
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Kissinger’s meeting with [Arnold] Eric Sevareid
     -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
     -Howard K. Smith’s views
     -Possible adverse reaction
     -State Department
     -President’s public statements
     -Vietnam
           -Political considerations                        Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
           -Effect on 1972 elections
                 -Hubert H. Humphrey and Edmund S. Muskie
           -President’s policies

Cambodia
    -1970 election
    -Possible effect on 1972 elections
    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
    -Media coverage
    -PRC
    -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
         -Clark MacGregor
    -Media reaction to President’s speech
         -Washington Star
         -Press coverage

PRC negotiations
    -North Vietnam
    -North Korea
    -Embargo on US fuel oil
    -Visa requirements
    -Currency restrictions
    -Export licenses
    -Coordinating committee
    -Topics
         -Under Secretary of State
    -Chou En-lai’s statement
    -US-PRC relations

Prisoners of War [POWs]
     -Americans visiting Paris
           -Possible discussions with North Vietnam
     -US policy
     -Negotiations
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    Kissinger’s meeting with Sevareid
         -Time-Life reaction
         -Media
         -Development of President’s PRC policy
               -Public statements
               -President’s article
               -Visit to Romania                               Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
               -Highlights
                     -Taiwan
                     -PRC
         -Press relations
               -Possible “Bill of Rights”
         -President’s visit to Yugoslavia
         -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
         -Political considerations
         -Liberals
               -PRC
               -Vietnam
               -Laos and Cambodia

    PRC
          -State Department
          -Recognition issue
                -Possible effect
          -President’s policies
          -USSR


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    USSR


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                -Reaction
                -Possible action
                -US-USSR relations
                     -Unknown Soviet diplomat
                     -Middle East
                                                                         Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
[Ronald L. Ziegler talked with the President between 4:33 and 4:36 pm]

[Conversation No. 248-16A]

[See Conversation No. 42-38]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Muskie’s statement on Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
         -Surveillance of Earth Day
         -Donald H. Rumsfeld
         -Possible candidacy
         -Richard M. Helms
         -1972 elections
               -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy and Humphrey

     Vietnam
          -Campaign issue
          -USSR
              -Possible summit meeting

     Foreign relations
          -Vietnam


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[National Security]
[Duration: 15s ]

     VIETNAM

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          -Vietnam
               -Paris Peace Talks
               -Cease fire
          -Middle East
                                                               Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
    Kissinger’s relations with the press
         -Meeting with Sevareid
         -Administration critics
         -Sevareid
         -San Clemente
         -Laos
         -Vietnam
               -Sevareid’s views
               -Negotiations

    USSR
        -US-USSR negotiations

    PRC
          -Taiwan
          -US relations

    Vietnam
         -Unknown man’s reaction
         -President’s speech on Southeast Asia
         -Joseph W. and Stewart J. O. Alsop
         -Robert S. McNamara
         -Pierre E. Trudeau
         -Cambodia
               -President’s policies
               -Timing
         -Laotian incursion
         -Cambodia
               -President’s conversation with Victor Lasky
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    FOREIGN AFFAIRS                                              Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)


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          -Kissinger’s conversation with Sevareid
          -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations

    US-USSR relations
        -SALT negotiations
        -Summit meeting
        -Lyndon B. Johnson
             -Glassboro Summit
             -Bombing halt
        -J. William Fulbright
             -Senate delegation
        -Johnson’s bombing halt
        -PRC-US relations
             -Chou

    PRC
          -US relations
          -Chou

    USSR
        -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
        -SALT
             -Timing
             -State Department
        -Possible summit meeting
        -SALT
             -Timing
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        -Paris negotiations
              -Timing
        -Kissinger’s conversations with Dobrynin
              -North Vietnam
              -Negotiations
              -Laos

Vietnam                                                         Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
     -MacGregor
     -Congress
         -Robert P. Griffin and the Michigan editors
     -MacGregor and Haig

Polls
        -Results
        -President’s Vietnam speech
        -Press
        -Laos
        -President’s speech on Vietnam, November 3, 1969
        -Anti-intellectuals
        -McNamara’s address to Democratic group

Vietnam negotiations
     -Kissinger’s conversation with McGeorge Bundy
     -President’s policies
     -Timing
     -Korea
     -George S. McGovern and Humphrey
     -Troop withdrawals
     -President’s options
           -Second team
     -Possible settlement
     -PRC
     -Troop levels
     -Possible North Vietnamese position
     -POWs
     -General Nguyen Van Thieu
     -South Vietnam
     -Cease fire
     -President’s conversation with John B. Connally, April 13, 1971
     -Timing
     -Troop withdrawals
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           -Timing
           -Wilbur D. Mills
           -Possible effects on 1972 campaign
           -South Vietnam
           -Possible US options
           -MacGregor and William P. Rogers

     PRC                                                         Conv. No. 248-16 (cont.)
           -Significance
           -Reporters’ meeting with President
           -Ping-pong team
           -Reporters’ meeting with President

Kissinger left at 5:10 pm