Conversation No. 253-23

Date: May 26, 1971
Time: 4:11 pm - 5:20 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with J. Edgar Hoover, John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, and Egil
(“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.

     A function given by Hoover, May 26, 1971
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         -John [Mitchell or Ehrlichman]
         -A woman [Name unintelligible]

    Seating arrangements

    Killing of New York, New York policeman
          -Details of shooting
               -Compared with President                           Conv. No. 253-22 (cont.)

    Respect for law
         -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
         -San Francisco
               -Edmund S. Muskie
               -Bella S. Abzug

    Respect for armed forces and police force
         -Historical precedents
         -Drug problem
               -President’s and Hoover’s service
               -Vietnam


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             -Political dimensions
         -Hoover’s program
             -President’s and Mitchell’s position
             -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
                   -Herbert Brownell, William P. Rogers
             -Mitchell’s position
             -President’s position in Eisenhower administration
             -Public opinion
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                -Opening of a new academy (?)
           -Mitchell’s previous trip to Atlanta

An unknown person [Ronald L. Ziegler?] entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm
     Seating arrangements

The unknown person [Ziegler?] left at an unknown time before 4:15 pm
                                                                       Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
     Respect for police
          -Mitchell’s previous trip to Atlanta
                -Businessmen
          -Publicity
                -Polls

Ziegler and members of the press entered at 4:15 pm

[Camera noise]

     Mary Sholto

[Camera noise]

     Length of time for photos

Ziegler and members of the press left at 4:17 pm

     FBI

     Killing of New York, New York policeman
           -Richard S. Schweiker’s bill
           -President’s condolence letters
           -A scholarship fund
           -Need for administration action
           -FBI role in investigation
                 -Jurisdiction

     Killing of a Washington, DC policeman, May 25, 1971
           -Daughter of Thomas W. Fletcher, Sr., Heidi Fletcher
                 -Son [Thomas W. Fletcher, Jr.]
                 -College in California
                 -Roommate
                 -Commune
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Killing of New York, New York policeman
      -FBI role in investigation
      -Congress
      -Publicity
           -Compared with Mickey C. Mantle’s baseball career in New York
      -Funeral
           -Police representation                              Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
                  -Number of states
                  -President’s call to Edward J. Kiernan
                  -Black officers
      -Black response
      -Motive

Mitchell’s September 1970 meeting with International Chiefs of Police
     -Schweiker bill
           -Response
           -Effect
     -President’s directive
           -Response
     -Schweiker bill
           -Response

Federal funds for families of slain police
     -Revenue sharing
     -Possible scholarship fund
           -Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
     -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
           -Proposed National Service Insurance Bill
                 -Police and firemen’s response
                 -Provisions in some states
     -Revenue sharing
           -State and local contributions
     -Possible legislation
     -Insurance
           -Kennedy bill
     -Social Security
     -Chicago, New York, Los Angeles
     -Local option
     -FBI contributions
     -Federal law enforcement establishment
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American society
    -Burning of cities
    -Killing of policemen
    -Disrespect for armed forces and law enforcement
    -Future
    -Black Panthers, Bobby G. Seale
    -FBI wiretaps
          -Police                                         Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
          -Effects
          -A specific wiretap
                -Publicity
          -Attorney General’s authorization
          -Local authorities
          -A wiretap related to a bank robbery
                -Stake-out
                -A girl, robbers
                -Motive for robbery
                -Recording of serial numbers
          -New York arrests for gambling
          -Savings of policemen’s lives

Seale case
     -Status
     -Judicial system
     -An attorney in Los Angeles

President’s Alabama trip
     -A sign concerning Angela Y. Davis

Davis
     -President’s response to case
     -Publicity

Daniel J. and Philip F. Berrigan
     -Publicity regarding case
     -Case
     -P. F. Berrigan
           -Followers’ beliefs
           -Letters
                 -Police or FBI role
                 -An attachment
                       -W. Ramsey Clark
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Wiretapping
     -Clark
           -Statements in May 26, 1971 newspapers
     -President’s position
           -President’s California press conference

Killing of New York, New York policeman                           Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
      -Insurance program for families
      -Prosecution of case
            -Schweiker bill
            -Local police
      -White House statement
            -President’s meeting with Hoover
            -Patrick V. Murphy
      -Funeral
            -Murphy, John V. Lindsay
            -Police Benevolent Association

Respect for law
     -White House action
           -A directive
           -President’s and Mitchell’s position
                 -Hoover’s press contacts
     -Law enforcement
           -Status of legislation
     -Law Day
           -A broadcast
           -Legislation
     -Possible recognition for Washington, DC policemen
           -South Lawn ceremony
           -Effect
     -Law Enforcement Day
     -Possible Presidential actions
           -President’s statements concerning law enforcement
           -International Chiefs of Police convention in California in September
                 -Group and officers
                       -[Forename unknown] Pang [?]
                 -National Crisis Information Center [NCIC]
           -President’s speeches
           -Possible event
           -President’s visit to a hospital in Kansas City
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           -Purpose
                -President’s, Mitchell’s, and Hoover’s positions
                      -Publicity
                      -Compared with military
                      -Compared with Muskie, Hubert H. Humphrey, and Kennedy’s
                           position

Drug problems                                               Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
     -President’s position
     -[Forename unknown] Brown at Department of Health, Education, and Welfare
           [HEW]
           -Marijuana

Respect for law
     -President’s position
           -Compared with former presidents
     -International Association of Police [IAP]
           -Possible meeting with President
                 -Time
                 -Number
                 -Location
                 -Representation
                 -Purpose
                 -Date
                 -Hoover’s and Mitchell’s attendance
                 -Purposes
                       -Pending legislation
                       -Publicity
                 -Possible attendees
                       -House Judiciary Committee
                       -Emanuel Celler
                       -Senate Judiciary Committee
                       -Celler
                       -William M. McCulloch
                       -James O. Eastland
                 -Location
                 -Attendees
                       -Statements to press
                       -Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, “Heartland”, South,
                             Missouri
                       -Officers of organization
           -Schweiker bill
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-White House staff work
      -Krogh
      -Ehrlichman’s office
      -Protective techniques
-Police Recognition Day
      -Compared with Armed Forces Day
      -Richard J. Daley
            -Chicago police recognition                    Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
-”Police brutality”
-Police Recognition Day
      -Process of establishment
            -President’s role
                  -Radio address
                  -Publicity
-President’s meeting with police officers
      -Purpose
            -Schweiker bill
            -Police Recognition Day
-Public opinion
      -Lawmen, armed forces
            -Drugs
      -FBI
-Jack Pumpereau [?]
      -Parole of assailant
-Possible meetings with President
      -Sheriff’s Association
            -[Forename unknown] McCandless, president
            -First vice president
      -International Association of Chiefs of Police head
      -Law enforcement organization officials
      -McCandless
            -California
      -Other attendees
            -Hoover, Mitchell
            -Jerry V. Wilson
            -Head of Justice Department, Criminal Division
            -Head of LEAA
      -McCandless
      -Press statement
            -Head of International Chiefs of Police
            -McCandless’ experience
                  -”Merv Griffin Show”
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      -Attendees
            -New York representation
                  -Head of benevolent association
                  -Schweiker bill position
-Mayor Daley
      -President’s and Mitchell’s positions
      -Otto Kerner
      -Actions in public housing projects                   Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
-An LEAA project
      -Public housing outposts
-FBI
      -Training regarding assassinations
      -Academy graduates
            -Possible training for police
                  -Possible appearance by President
                  -Number of attendees
                  -Need
                  -Intelligence
            -Class sizes (?)
            -Scheduling of training
-Legislation
-Possible conference of FBI and police
-Possible National Police Recognition Day
      -Congress
      -President’s role
            -Possible statement
-Senate and House Judiciary Committees
      -Meeting with President
            -Celler’s and McCulloch’s possible attendance
            -Richard H. Poff and Eastland
            -Roman L. Hruska
-President’s meeting with Hoover
      -Statements to press
            -Hoover, Ziegler
-Legislation
      -A forthcoming announcement
-Public opinion
      -New York policemen’s killing
            -Race, assailants’ race
-Washington, DC demonstrations
      -Washington, DC police
            -Public safety
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          -A meeting
              -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s [?] possible appearance
          -Murphy
              -Possible attendance at a meeting
              -Lyndon B. Johnson, Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy

     R. F. Kennedy
           -Johnson                                                Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
           -Hoover
           -Campaign
           -A US attorney from Minneapolis
           -1964 Democratic convention in Atlantic City
                -Planned demonstrations
                     -John F. Kennedy
                     -Johnson
                     -Hoover’s meeting with Johnson

     Johnson
          -Staff
          -Hoover
          -1964 Democratic convention
                -Planned demonstrations
                      -Kenneth P. O’Donnell
                      -R. F. Kennedy
          -R. F. Kennedy’s resignation as Attorney General
                -R. F. Kennedy’s plan
                      -Hoover’s role
          -Call to Hoover from Austin
                -New York Times’ statement
                      -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
                      -President
                      -Hoover’s reply

     Jack N. Anderson
          -Reporters’ search through Hoover’s garbage

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:17 pm

     Henry A. Kissinger’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:17 pm
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    Anderson
        -Reporters’ search through Hoover’s garbage
             -Findings
                   -Hoover’s reply

    Drew Pearson

    Anderson                                                     Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)

    Moshe Dayan [?]

    King Malik ibn Abd al-Aziz al-Saud Faisal
         -Forthcoming visit
         -Previous visit
         -[Unintelligible]
         -An event
              -Hoover’s invitation
              -Time


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    Drug Program
         -President’s role
         -HEW and National Institutes of Mental Health [NIMH] role
         -Marijuana legalization
         -Elliot L. Richardson’s role
         -New agency
               -Responsibility
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                    -President, Ehrlichman, HEW
         -Department of Defense [DOD]
               -Melvin R. Laird
                    -Secretary of Army
               -Responsibility at Assistant Secretary level
               -Kissinger, Laird
         -President’s forthcoming actions
         -HEW’s role                                                Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
         -Military
               -Enforcement
                    -Mitchell’s role
               -Need for action
               -Methadone programs
                    -NIMH
               -DOD
               -Dishonorable discharges
                    -PCDs
                    -Effects
               -Veterans’ Administration [VA]
               -Possible meeting of Laird and service secretaries
                    -Secretaries
                           -Robert C. Seamans, Jr.
                           -John H. Chafee
                           -Seamans
                           -Robert S. McNamara
                           -Chafee
         -Rogers
         -John B. Connally
         -Prevailing attitudes
         -John E. (“Jack”) Ingersoll’s report
               -Embassies
               -Rogers
         -Laird
         -Needs
               -Direction
                    -Kissinger and Ehrlichman
                           -Segregation
                           -DOD, Supreme Court


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                                                                 Conv. No. 253-23 (cont.)
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     [Unintelligible]

Hoover, et al. left at 5:20 pm