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Start Date: 9-Jun-1971 10:34 AM

End Date: 9-Jun-1971 12:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Cox, Tricia NixonWhite House operatorButterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:59:38

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:21:49

255a.mp3

255b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On June 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Tricia Nixon Cox, White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:34 am to 12:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 255-033 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 255-33

Date: June 9, 1971
Time: 10:34 am - 12:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman

     Sugar quotas

     Fugitive Black Panthers in New York City

[The President talked with Tricia Nixon between 10:34 am and 10:35 am]

[Conversation No. 255-33A]

[See Conversation No. 4-86]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Housing legislation draft
         -Re-work draft
         -Deadlines
               -Alexander P. Butterfield
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[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:35 am and
10:38 am]

[Conversation No. 255-33F]

[See Conversation No. 4-87]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Housing statement
         -Language
         -Consideration of legal basis
         -”Spirit and letter of the law”
               -William P. Rogers
         -Previous legal case
               -”Blackjack” case
         -Role of executive departments

[Butterfield talked with the President between 10:38 am and 10:39 am]

[Conversation No. 255-33B]

[See Conversation No. 4-88]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Housing statement
         -Language
         -Press briefing
               -Ehrlichman
               -George W. Romney
               -John N. Mitchell
               -Ehrlichman
               -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                     -Previous memorandum
                          -Housing integration
                     -Nature of statement
                          -Ehrlichman
                     -Press
         -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD] draft
               -Romney
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          -Mitchell
          -Discussion on details of draft
          -Price
          -Domestic Council
          -Review by Justice Department
                -Modification
                      -Executive department support
          -Language                                           Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
                -Individual passages in statement
                      -Editing
                      -Term “fair housing”
                            -Price

Previous briefing
     -Peter G. Peterson
     -Timing
     -Follow-up
     -Staff, Senate

Drug issue
     -Vietnam
           -60 day treatment program for Vietnam servicemen
                -Casualties
     -President’s schedule
           -Henry A. Kissinger
           -Proposed meeting with US ambassadors
                -Ellsworth F. Bunker
                -Mexico
                -Turkey
                -Thailand
                -Rogers
           -Global perspective

US-Japanese treaty
     -Okinawa
     -President’s schedule
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 1m 25 ]


    COUNTRIES                                                  Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)


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    Foreign travel
         -Timing
         -Moscow
         -Peking
         -Europe
         -Midway Island


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 30s ]


    JAPAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    Drug issue
         -President’s schedule
         -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
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          -Elliott L. Richardson’s forthcoming meeting
                -American Medical Association [AMA] leaders
                -Prescriptions
                -Doctors who fail to treat addicts

[The President talked to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time between 10:39 am and
11:10 am]
                                                                    Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
[Conversation No. 255-33C]


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 44s ]


     JAPAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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[End of telephone conversation]

     Drug issue
          -Relationship between marijuana and heroin
                -Drug culture
          -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
          -Vietnam servicemen and drugs
                -Political issue
          -Amnesty program
                -Robert H. Steele
          -Jaffe
          -Clark MacGregor
          -Penalties for drug traffickers
                -Krogh
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     Public Service Employment veto
          -Alternative
                -Overall strategy
          -George [Surname unknown]
          -Scheduling

[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 10:39 am and 11:10
am]                                                                 Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)

[Conversation No. 255-33D]

     President’s schedule
          -Fordham University event
                -Location
                      -Rose Garden
                -Presentation

[End of telephone conversation]

     Budget reduction
         -Nelson A. Rockefeller’s attack on John V. Lindsay
               -New York state budget
         -Public service
         -Employment
         -”Model Cities” program
         -Education
         -Across the board cut
               -Cabinet and special interests
         -Transportation
         -Study of what types of government expenditures create jobs
               -Domestic Council
               -Men and money
         -Deficit
               -George P. Shultz
               -Milton Friedman
         -Budget
         -Monetary policy
         -Fiscal Year [FY] 1973 and FY 1972
         -Budget cuts
               -Review of options
                     -Edwin L. Harper
                     -Martin C. (“Marty”) Anderson
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[The President talked with Haldeman [?] at an unknown time between 10:39 am and 11:10 am]

[Conversation No. 255-33E]

     Request for meeting

[End of telephone conversation]                                    Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)

     Budget reduction
         -Appropriation bills
         -Modified budget
               -Jobs
               -Vetoes
         -Welfare reform
               -Possible veto
         -House Rules Committee
               -Section 4
         -Senate
         -Budget
         -Possible veto
               -Welfare reform
         -Senate

Haldeman entered at 11:10 am

          -Forthcoming government study
               -Domestic Council
               -Expenditures
               -Jobs
          -Public broadcasting
               -Alternatives to federal funding
               -National Educational Television [NET]
                     -Fusion with public broadcasting
                     -Fund raising
                     -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
               -Government control
                     -Frank Pace, Jr.
                     -John W. Macy, Jr.
          -National Endowment for the Arts [NEA]
               -Government expenditures in art
               -Public support
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     -Buck Chandler
-”Right to Read” program
     -Pilot project in Washington, DC
            -Congressional participation
            -News media participation
            -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
            -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
     -Volunteer program                                   Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
            -Proposed goals
                  -National focus
                  -Inner-city youth
                        -Urban Service Corps
                              -T. Nixon
            -Jeanne Ehrlichman
            -Walter W. Straley
                  -National Reading Center
                  -Hugh Scott
-Study of issues
     -Domestic problems
            -Air pollution
            -Revenue sharing
                  -Tax reduction
            -Welfare reform
                  -Eliminate welfare fraud
            -John F. Kennedy
                  -Election of 1960
            -Dwight D. Eisenhower
            -Lyndon B. Johnson
            -Donald H. Rumsfeld
            -Drugs
            -Law enforcement
            -Unemployment
            -Inflation
            -John B. Connally
                  -Image
            -Walter J. Hickel
            -Public relations on foreign policy
                  -Vietnam
                  -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                  -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                  -Europe
            -”Generation of Peace”
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-Krogh’s poll on drugs
      -Crime and narcotics
            -Public reaction
-Foreign affairs
      -Public policy
-President’s image abroad
      -President’s previous television appearance
      -Kennedy                                      Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
      -Eisenhower
      -L. B. Johnson
      -Vietnam
            -Effect
      -Travel and foreign visits
            -Spain
            -Indonesia
-Domestic issues
      -Image
            -Law and order
            -Television appearances
-Sugar quotas
      -Kissinger
            -Ecuador
      -Peterson
-Public image
      -Connally
            -Future meeting with J. D. Ehrlichman
            -Support for organization
      -Revenue sharing
      -Reorganization
      -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
      -Leadership qualities
      -Polls
      -Press
            -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
      -Economy
      -Departments of Commerce and Labor
            -Maurice H. Stans
            -Statistical departments
            -Census on property levels
                  -Stans
            -James D. Hodgson
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                    -”Goldstein” [Leon Greenberg]
                          -Possible transfer
               -Goals and objectives for administration
                    -Employment
                          -Eliminate unemployment
                          -OMB
                          -Henry A. Wallace
                          -Franklin D. Roosevelt                  Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
                          -J. F. Kennedy
                                 -Space program
                                 -Cuba
                    -Environment
                          -Relation to 18-year-old vote
                          -Business interests
                          -Clean air and clean water
                                 -Potomac River
                                 -Ohio and Missouri Rivers
                                      -Political consequences
                                            -District of Columbia
                                            -Virginia
                                            -Maryland
                                            -Ohio

Rockefeller versus Lindsay
    -New York City labor unrest

Environment
     -President’s position
     -Edmund S. Muskie
     -William D. Ruckelshaus
     -Domestic Council
           -Business and environment
     -Government expenditures
     -Parks
     -Clean air and clean water
           -San Clemente
                 -Jobs
           -California
                 -Smog
           -London
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                  -Los Angeles
                       -Automobiles
                       -Weather

J. D. Ehrlichman left at 11:46 am

     President’s schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with US ambassadors               Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
                -Drugs

     Press
             -SALT
                 -Unknown person and John A. Scali
                 -Administration poll on public awareness

     [Forename unknown] Derge [sp?]
          -PRC
               -George H. Gallup and Louis Harris polls
               -Administration’s polls

     President’s forthcoming speech
          -Oklahoma
          -Press coverage
          -Price and Peterson

     President’s message
          -Mitchell
          -Charles W. Colson
          -J. D. Ehrlichman
          -Timing
                -1972 Republican Convention
          -Invitation to White House

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 29s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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     Staff duties
           -J. D. Ehrlichman
           -Shultz

     Public opinion polls
          -Environment                                           Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)
          -J. D. Ehrlichman
          -Ruckelshaus
          -Business
          -Labor
          -E. M. Kennedy
                -Boston politicians

     President’s schedule
          -Photograph with group
                -Marie Lombardi
                -Felix E. Larkin
                -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy

Manolo Sanchez entered at unknown time after 11:46 am


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3s ]


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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:00 pm

     President’s schedule
          -Larkin

The President left at an unknown time before 12:00 pm
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Non-historical]
[Duration: 29s ]
                                                               Conv. No. 255-33 (cont.)

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

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The President entered at an unknown time after 11:46 pm

     Larkin
          -Wellington T. Mara
          -John J. Breslin, Jr.

The President and Haldeman left at 12:00 pm