Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 256 › Conversation 256-031
Nixon, Rebozo & Haig on Press relations and Economic policy
Sunday, June 13, 1971 · 8:10 AM–12:42 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 19 min
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President Nixon met with various aides and associates, including Charles G. Rebozo and General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., to address administrative matters and ongoing policy concerns. The discussions involved managing the President's schedule, press coverage, and broad economic considerations regarding business leadership and market influences. The participants reviewed draft materials and organizational strategies for future meetings while ensuring the alignment of public messaging with internal policy objectives.
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Hello, I'll be right back.
Yeah, I'll be right out.
All right.
Bill, please.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you get that Frank Dentalist finished?
Yeah, yeah.
Now, did you add business people, I mean, support type and so forth?
Fine, fine.
That's exactly what I want to do.
For any of those in the future, we can use the big chairs and have 62 people, and not so overloaded with the statement and all that sort of people.
At this time, we can provide a lot of them, but I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He, uh...
He, of course, wasn't awful.
What?
What?
What?
What?
But everything he's saying publicly now is an answer to what we said to him.
What did you say was very, uh, this is expected to stop.
Yeah.
Respected to stop in our senses, we just laid it out.
Yeah, but he had to be in closing time before he had to take it.
He didn't want to.
He didn't want to.
He didn't want to.
He didn't want to.
He didn't want to.
I still take the odds of sleepwalking.
And beyond that, they have actually, I thought, been funded to be here.
And they're never going to be treated like that again.
They're going to continue to be abandoned to another floor.
So, very seriously, he said, they will get a name by the end.
He said he regretted in one way that it was, that Thor had become the test case for the United States.
He said, I might have to take that.
The Foreign Ministry didn't have a major influence on the military, a major role, and they don't have, he said, that he had with us, as we said, a few headings.
This is directly to the chiefs of staff and other high staff, you know.
And to the State Department, they had to make up, you know, I don't have a question, I don't have a question.
He called his own.
And he says that if it were anything in the foreign ministry, he could almost guarantee success.
But the military can show these briefings.
It sounds plausible, because God hasn't said who it was, I'm sure.
He said when he was there for the public congress, they showed the papers, and they said, and who are you to contradict me?
But he said he thought that his, his, I mean, he had, so, Brezhnev apparently was going to France, and he told him.
But he wasn't extremely,
Well, uh, so he knows that this is the last conference he has now.
As far as the, uh, any, uh, summit meetings are concerned, we have to know the first of July.
And, uh, I said, I said, I can't guarantee you that he wanted to know if for any reason it got through for September or for a few months.
But the defense would be positive months from now.
No.
No.
They have great attention with the entire youth game out there.
They can get us to set up a level for them.
And then they go to practice, and they can take advantage of it, and maybe then they'll go on.
And that is it now.
Thank you.
Oh.
That's what we hear from everybody else.
He said, I don't believe you.
Mm-hmm.
When I told him about Vietnam, he said, well,
No.
No.
No.
No.
Mm-hmm.
We're going to have to roll it.
We're going to have to roll it.
I'm sorry, we're going to move in that direction.
All right.
They all seem to feel that there's something wrong with the market.
Canada just so can make a $2 billion great deal in the Soviet Union.
It's a change from those political situations.
That's what I'm trying to say in my own words.
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In other words, it means something.
Nothing for cosmetics.
But if we have the stomach,
If you read it two seconds, then you can feel it.
I have a channel.
If you have even one, you have it.
I mean, some people like it, some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
Some people don't like it.
I'm not going to do that, are you?
Well, let me ask you what we're doing now.
Yeah, we won't give them any more than a hundred years, but we can.
We can't approve.
We can't approve.
We can't approve.
We can't approve.
We can't approve.
I know this isn't to look at us, but these guys put that down when you listen.
I mean, I can't tell what the stats might look like, but I guess they could do that.
Politically unpopular.
So just let it go.
Politically unpopular.
It's politically very popular today.
I'm not saying that's why you should do it.
It just means you're giving so much that you're figuring out how to do it.
My point is because I do not want to get the sign.
I do not want to be in a position.
No, I'm not going to do that.
Well, the Japanese and certainly the Europeans are playing a lot of the game here.
If it's discretionary, we'll do it.
We aren't, but we're going to be bad, terrible on our discretion.
We're not going to apply it because it hurts.
We're going to take a drill on this quarter minute, on this textual thing that we've been doing.
We're going to have to let it be.
God is the center of the judge.
He's got to get high on saying everything.
Well, what gets me down is that the conversation is important.
Well, of course, we have a combination of the State Department that doesn't want any trouble, and people like Don Kendall.
We don't, in fact, do not send text messages to that employee.
They give the impression that we don't really have all that good of a care.
Ain't no others.
I see nothing else we can do.
I don't think that's a good thing.
You've got to remember, right now, we're getting better at the core of that.
I agree.
I don't see the other answer either.
I thought you'd come up with that.
That's what we're going to do.
The hell with economic people.
I'm not going to screw around.
They can't get us the rest.
We're going to fight this weak trade the rest of our lives.
The hell with it.
I was wondering about this.
Getting to the Vietnam, have you done any more thought about what, if anything, we could do this month in terms of the Vietnam War?
I'm leading with this positive group of drafts.
On the draft?
On the draft.
Just once more, what if anything can be done?
It is a murderous problem.
I've tested it in terms of numbers, but in terms of the fact that a lot of things
We know it.
What?
What?
What?
What?
Well, either two, one I may prefer.
All of us are straight trained to deal with other people.
And there's no reason or any problem to deal with other people.
I'm sure today they've achieved the last step.
It's just a typical maneuver.
And then I'm going to try to advance the president because he doesn't talk to the president enough.
He doesn't talk to the president.
What is Pudder doing here?
I see based on what he says.
He has had this conversation with him.
I'd rather to call him anti-assault.
I told Franco that, rather yesterday, that if he had any information, he didn't share it with anybody in the administration.
Another point was made, the President made, he needed him to get out of the home.
That we had never offered him to discuss the criminal case.
I think, Rich, I think, if I hadn't seen him last year,
NARA Description
On June 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo, Manolo Sanchez, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Carol (Crothers) Finch, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:10 am and 12:42 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 256-031 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 256-31
Date: June 13, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:10 am and 12:42 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President talked with an unknown person
President’s schedule
-Press coverage
[End of telephone conversation]
The President met with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo at 10:53 am
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 23m 56s ]
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:53 am
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:06 am
[The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 11:06 am and 11:07 am]
[Conversation No. 256-31A]
[See Conversation No. 5-43]
[End of telephone conversation]
[Rebozo talked with Rose Mary Woods at an unknown time between 11:07 am and 11:51 am]
[Conversation No. 256-31B]
[See Conversation No. 5-45]
[The President talked with Woods at an unknown time between 11:07 am and 11:51 am]
[End of telephone conversation]
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:07 am
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:53 pm
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:07 am and
11:53 am]
[Conversation No. 256-31C]
[See Conversation No. 5-46]
[End of telephone conversation]
[The President talked with Finch between 11:51 am and 11:53 am]
[Conversation No. 256-31D]
[See Conversation No. 5-47]
[End of telephone conversation]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 9m 35s ]
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:53 am
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:18 pm
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 11:53 am and
12:18 pm]
[Conversation No. 256-31E]
[See Conversation No. 5-49]
[End of telephone conversation]
[The President talked with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. at an unknown time between 12:18
pm and 12:42 pm]
[Conversation No. 256-31F]
[See Conversation No. 5-50]
[End of telephone conversation]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 5m 7s ]
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:42 pm
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 12:42
pm]
[Conversation No. 256-31G]
[See Conversation No. 5-51]
[End of telephone conversation]
[The President talked with Eisenhower at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 12:42 pm]
[Conversation No. 256-31H]
[See Conversation No. 5-52]
[End of telephone conversation]
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:18 am
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:42 pm
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Rebozo left at an unknown time before 12:42 pmAlso recorded on June 13, 1971
- 005-032 8:35 AM · 58 sec — the White House operator, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, President Richard M. Nixon, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at 8:35 am.
- 005-033 8:36 AM · 32 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Ann Davis talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:56 am.
- 005-034 8:36 AM · 1 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:56 am.
- 005-035 8:36 AM · 27 sec — unknown person(s) and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:56 am.
- 005-036 8:36 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:36 am and 9:56 am.
- 005-037 9:56 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 9:56 am to 10:03 am.
- 005-038 10:04 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 10:04 am.
- 005-039 10:05 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 10:05 am to 10:10 am.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 256-031, June 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/256-031 (accessed October 27, 2026).