Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 256 › Conversation 256-035

Nixon & Woods on Strategic Policy and Organizational Management

Sunday, June 13, 1971 · 12:56 PM–1:28 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation256-035 on Tape 256 (tape position 01:29:09–01:32:30)StartSunday, June 13, 1971 at 12:56 PMEndSunday, June 13, 1971 at 1:28 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 256-035 ↗

President Richard Nixon met with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to discuss administrative and strategic planning regarding upcoming personnel or policy cycles. The conversation focused on managing timelines and expectations for institutional goals, specifically referencing the need to align internal processes for the following year. The discussion highlights the President's concern with organizational discipline and the strategic pacing of objectives.

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On June 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 256-035 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 256-35

Date: June 13, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:56 pm and 1:28 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods

[See Conversation No. 5-56]

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And, uh, the work I did, it worked out, too.
Ah, of course.
I mean, you know, I always thought that you were right.
I mean, you know, I always thought that you were right.
I mean, you know, I always thought that you were right.
I mean, you know, I always thought that you were right.
I mean, you know, I always thought that you were right.
What?
What?
What?
He's got this son of a bitch in him.
He just plays his life and whatever it is.
Yes, that Laird is taking all our bloody assets out of South East Asian.
We're going to wake up next year.
We cannot afford to pay the benefits to hit us next year.
We are in the process of withdrawing.
Because if we do, then we'll be accused that we could have had the first year.
Why should we get Laird after the end of the year?
Because that's what you'll get more of in the long run.
Yeah, let's get the other two.
Yeah, he was Monday.
Take your schedule.
I'll be off.
I called him yesterday.
I'm all
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  • 005-055 12:53 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 1:28 pm.
  • 005-056 12:53 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 1:28 pm.
  • 005-057 12:53 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 1:28 pm.
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Conversation 256-035, June 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/256-035 (accessed November 12, 2026).