Conversation: 269-025
Prev: 269-024 Next: 269-026Start Date: 3-Aug-1971 12:05 PM
End Date: 3-Aug-1971 1:40 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Abel, I[lorwith] W.; White House operator; MacGregor, Clark; Ehrlichman, John D.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Kissinger, Henry A.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:48:45
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:24:36
NARA Description:
On August 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, I[lorwith] W. Abel, White House operator, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:05 pm to 1:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 269-025 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 269-25
Date: August 3, 1971
Time: 12:05 pm - 1:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Busing
-Texas schools
-John B. Connally
-George P. Shultz
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[The President talked with I[lworth] W[ilbur] Abel between 12:07 pm and 12:10 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25A]
Steel settlement
-Negotiating sessions
-Impact of possible strike
-1959 strike
-Productivity study
-President's schedule
-Possible meetings
-President’s possible involvement
-J. Curtis Counts
-News summary
-Bank and file workers
-Possible speech
-Meeting
[End of telephone conversation]
President's schedule
-Telephone calls
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and
12:12 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25B]
Call to Clark MacGregor
[End of telephone conversation]
Lockheed vote
-MacGregor’s schedule
-Telephone calls
-Notes
-John G. Tower
-J. Caleb Boggs
-William V. Roth, Jr.
[The President talked with MacGregor between 12:12 pm and 12:15 pm]
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[Conversation No. 269-25C]
MacGregor's schedule
Lockheed
-Vote outcome
-Tower, Boggs, Roth, Marlow W. Cook
-Peter H. Dominick
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-[Unknown person]
-George D. Aiken
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Dominick
-PRC
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Taiwan
-President's appreciation of MacGregor's work
-Cook, Boggs, Roth
-Petrochemical deal
[End of telephone conversation]
Lockheed vote
-Note to Cook
-Motivations
-David H. Gambrell
President's schedule
-Letters
-Gerald R. Ford
-Telephone calls
-Birthday greetings
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and
12:20 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25D]
John D. Ehrlichman's schedule
-Meeting with Shultz
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
[End of telephone conversation]
Busing in Texas
-Shultz
-President's conversation
-Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] regional director
-Edward L. Morgan
President's schedule
-Press conference
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Possible postponement
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Timing
-Mary McGrory
-Possible question
-Unemployment
-Timing
-Ziegler’s possible announcement
-Trip to New York
[Ehrlichman talked with the President between 12:20 pm and 12:26 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25E]
Busing
-President's meeting with Connally
-Shultz
-Trip to Texas
-Harry S. Dent
-John N. Mitchell
-Appeal
-Haldeman
-Ehrlichman's call to Mitchell
-Texas chairmen
-Mississippi chairmen
-Mitchell’s message to chairmen
-Emergency school aid
-HEW plan
-Shultz
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
-Alternative
-Dallas
-Connally's comments
-HEW
-President’s view
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Possible veto of emergency school aid
-Amendment
-Congress
[End of telephone conversation]
Busing
-Statement
-Amendment
President’s schedule
-Press conference
-Ziegler
-Buchanan
-The press
-President’s location
-Old Executive Office Building [EOB]
-Connally
-Mitchell
-Press releases
-Timing
[Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:26 pm and
12:45 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25F]
Call to Ziegler
[End of telephone conversation]
President's schedule
-Trip to New York City
-Press conference
-Ziegler, Buchanan
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
-Leaks
Busing in Texas schools
-Possible appeal
-Austin, Dallas
[Haldeman talked with Ziegler at an unknown time between 12:26 pm and 12:45 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25G]
President's schedule
-Press conference
-Timing
-Press participation
-Pool plan
-Gerald L. Warren
-President's trip to New York City
[End of telephone conversation]
President's schedule
-Press conference
-Reporters' knowledge
-Timing of announcement
-President's preparation
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Buchanan
-News summary
-Editing
-Richard A. Moore
-John A. Scali
-William L. Safire
-Economy
-Positive spin
-Paul W. McCracken
National economy
-Administration policy
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Conservatives
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 21s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Agnew
-Trips
-Compared to President’s trips as Vice President
-Kitchen Debate
-Caracas, Venezuela
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Connally
National economy
-Proposed action
Timing
-Connally and Peter G. Peterson
-Congressional adjournment
-Appearance of panic
Kissinger entered at 12:45 pm.
PRC
-Trip
-Arthur F. Burns
President's schedule
-Meeting with [Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
-Timing
-Alaska
-California
-Emilio Garrastazu Medici
-Emperor Hirohito
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
-Western media briefing
-Timing
-Unknown person
-Possible conflict with football season
-Los Angeles
-Portland
-Los Angeles
-San Clemente
-Washington, DC
-Emperor Hirohito
-Alaska
-Possible visit by Prince and Princess Hitachi
-Japan House, New York
-John D. Rockefeller
-Emperor Hirohito meeting
-Effect on US-PRC relations
-Taiwan, Republic of China
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Sequoia trip
-Logistics
-Trip to New Hampshire
-Nursing home
-William Loeb
-Schedule
-Nashua
-Manchester
-Dover
-Problem
-Nursing home
-Conditions
-Press
-Photographs
-Staff
-Purpose of visit
-Bangor, Maine
-Arrival
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Tourism
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 49s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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-Breakfast meeting
-Speaker Carl B. Albert
-Tour
-Korea, Taiwan delegation
-Girls Nation group, August 6, 1971
-Albert
-Republican leadership
-MacGregor
[Unintelligible]
-Leslie C. Arends, Ford, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin
-Television
-George Putnam
-New York City
-Knights of Columbus, August 17, 1971
-Springfield, Illinois
-State Fair
-Speech
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Texas
-Pennsylvania
-Southern Illinois
-Texas
-Dallas
-Houston
-Apollo XV
-Busing issue
-Dallas
-Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] speech, August 19, 1971
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-New York
-Springfield
-Houston
-New York
-Dallas
-California
-San Clemente
-Robert H. Finch
-Springfield State Fair
-Houston
-Wyoming
-Montana
-Wyoming
-Grand Tetons
-Dallas
-VFW speech
-Busing issue
-Trip to New England
-Maine, New Hampshire
-Massachusetts and Vermont
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 15s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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Haldeman left at 1:15 pm.
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
Forthcoming press conference
-Possible questions
-Taiwan
-Resolution
-Treaty commitment
-Vietnam
-Speculation
-Vietnam negotiations
-David K.E. Bruce
-Willy Brandt
-President’s plan
-Paris
-Points
-Number
-South Vietnamese elections
-Nguyen Cao Ky
-Duong Van Minh
-Possible answer
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Peterson
-Vietnam
-Election
-Observers
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Drug traffic
-President’s comments
-General Tzu [sp?], Ky, Thieu
-Draft
-Amendment
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Kissinger’s possible call to John C. Stennis
-President’s letter
-Statement
-Pakistan
-Pentagon Papers
-US involvement in Vietnam
-Withdrawal
-PRC
-Forthcoming talks
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Press view
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
-New York Times
-Administration view
-National security
-Overclassification
-Declassification
-World War II documents
-War powers
-US foreign relations
-Japan
-Announcement
-Lawrence F. (“Larry”) Eagleburger
[The President talked with Haldeman between 1:27 pm and 1:28 pm]
[Conversation No. 269-25H]
Schedule
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Connally
-Sequoia
-Briefing
-Connally
[End of telephone conversation]
Atomic tests
-Amchitka, Alaska
-Announcement
-Postponement
-Environmentalists
John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 1:25 pm.
Busing in Texas
-Austin
-Appeal
-Republican chairmen
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Guam
-PRC
-Guam
-Itinerary
Forthcoming press conference
Kissinger left at 1:33 pm.
Busing
-Statement
-Mitchell
-Calls to chairmen
-Amendment
-Elliot L. Richardson, Morgan
-Timing
-Wording
-Emergency School Assistance Act
-Richardson
-Justice Department action
-Notice of appeal
-Attorney General
-HEW plan
-President’s position
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Richardson
-HEW personnel
-Morgan
-Dallas case
-Federal government involvement
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
[NAACP]
-School district
-District court ruling
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Richardson
-Southern chairmen
-Constitutional amendment
-Timing
-1972 Republican convention
-Connally
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Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)
-Legislative process
-Republican convention
-Platform
-Polls
-Jacob K. Javits
-Press conference
-Possible question
-Answer
-Austin case ruling
-Racial balance in schools
-Busing as requirement
-Connally
Lockheed vote
-Connally
-Role
-Treasury Department
-Cook
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Delaware
-Petrochemical
-Boggs
-Roth
Busing in Texas
-White House statement
-Opponents
-[Forename unknown] Hargrave [sp?]
-Connally's trip to Texas
-Possible press conference
-Constitutional amendment
-Court action
-Austin case
-HEW plan
-White House statement
Ehrlichman left at 1:40 pm.