Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 274 › Conversation 274-015

Nixon & Rogers on Japan and Foreign Policy

Monday, August 16, 1971 · 3:37 PM–3:40 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.Conversation274-015 on Tape 274 (tape position 00:22:48–00:24:55)StartMonday, August 16, 1971 at 3:37 PMEndMonday, August 16, 1971 at 3:40 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 274-015 ↗

President Nixon and Secretary of State William P. Rogers coordinated strategy regarding upcoming economic and diplomatic negotiations with Japan. Nixon emphasized a public relations theme centered on mutual success and fair competition rather than conflict. The President also informed Rogers that Japan had specifically requested his participation in the talks over other potential U.S. representatives like John Connally or George H.W. Bush.

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On August 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:37 pm to 3:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 274-015 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 274-15

Date: August 16, 1971
Time: 3:37 pm - 3:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with William P. Rogers.

     Japan
          -Negotiations
              -Arthur F. Burns
              -State Department
              -Cabinet
              -Suggested theme
                     -Competition
                         -Mutual success
              -John B. Connally
              -George H.W. Bush

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I was thinking that a very good theme for you in your personal conversations is speaking in a conference environment.
I'm not going to say it in front of people like that.
that I constantly hammered both of them to the rest of the person, which is not to do with you all.
I think that's, you know what I mean?
Even regardless if they figured it publicly, I'm saying for their purpose, but I'm not saying it internally.
So, I mean, it's a good thought.
What do you think?
You could say that you were twice, three times, you know, because he just couldn't feel more comfortable.
He just said, let's just get up some observations, let us compete.
We want to be well with their success, but we want to be successful, too.
Great.
We're going to do that.
We'll let Japanese people do it.
As a matter of fact, I decided three days ago that they want you first.
We offered them.
We said we could do you or Connelly or Bush, or they wanted you and I. Yeah.
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  • 274-019 3:47 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:47 pm to 3:48 pm.
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  • 274-022 3:50 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Idanell ("Nellie") (Brill) Connally met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:50 pm to 3:51 pm.
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Conversation 274-015, August 16, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/274-015 (accessed November 1, 2026).