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Start Date: 8-Sep-1971 10:06 AM

End Date: 8-Sep-1971 11:40 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:56:22

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:17:14

274a.mp3

274b.mp3

274c.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:06 am to 11:40 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 274-028 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 274-28

Date: September 8, 1971
Time: 10:06 am - 11:40 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     The President's schedule
          -Alaska
                -[Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
                      -Departure time
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
                -Departure
          -Montana
                -Michael J. Mansfield
                -Hungry Horse Dam
                -Glacier National Park
                -Time
          -Portland
                -San Francisco
                -Media briefing
          -Alaska
                -Editors conference
          -Seattle, Washington
                -High school convocation
                -Governor
                -Highway
                      -Dedication
          -Alaska
                -Walter J. Hickel
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                                    Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                    -Reception
                          -Anchorage
              -Airport arrival
              -Motorcade
              -Emperor Hirohito
              -Flight time
              -Hickel reception
                    -Guests
                          -Analogy to President’s attendance at Daughters of the American
                               Revolution [DAR] Congress, April 19, 1971


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         -Seattle
               -High school convocation
                     -Timing
         -Rhode Island
               -Economic club
         -Television coverage
         -Portland
         -Washington
         -Montana
               -Time
               -Media briefing
         -Washington
               -High school convocation
         -Portland
               -Media briefing
         -California
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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         -California
         -Washington
         -President’s Labor Day address
         -Detroit
         -Montana
         -Portland
         -Seattle
         -Detroit
         -Seattle
               -High school convocation
                     -Television
         -Montana
               -Dam
         -Washington
         -Portland
               -Media briefing
         -Summary
               -Montana
               -Portland
               -Washington
                     -High school convocation
                     -Possible visit to Edward C. Nixon
                     -Airport arrival
         -Portland
               -Media briefing
         -Seattle
               -Accommodations
               -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                                            23

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                                                             Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                   -Ehrlichman
              -Mark O. Hatfield
              -Media briefing
         -Montana
         -Washington
         -San Clemente
         -Church


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         -Portland
               -Media briefing
         -Church
         -Daniel J. Evans
         -Alaska
               -Hickel
                     -Reception
         -Associated Press [AP]
         -Constance M. (“Connie”) Stewart
         -Ronald L. Ziegler
         -California


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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


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               -Medical center
               -San Francisco
               -Santa Rosa
               -San Jose
         -Alaska
               -Pace of planned trip
                     -Emperor Hirohito
               -Hickel
                     -Maurice H. Stans
               -Pipeline announcement
                     -John N. Mitchell
                     -Timing
                     -Hickel
               -Hickel
                     -Book release in October
                            -John D. Ehrlichman
                            -White House staff
         -California
               -Yorba Linda
               -Political significance compared to other states
                     -Santa Ana
                     -San Diego county
                     -Northern California
                     -San Joaquin Valley
               -Compared to New York
         -Spiro T. Agnew's appearance
               -Japanese dinner
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                     -The President as Vice President
         -October
         -September
               -State dinners
                     -Ohio
                     -Illinois
                     -New York
                     -Florida
                                                 25

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                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                        -California
                        -Mailing
                              -Mitchell
                        -Meeting
                        -Format
                              -Briefing
                              -Social dinner
                              -Army chorus
                              -Receiving line
                              -Table
                                    -Cabinet officers
                        -Mitchell
                        -States
                        -Texas
                              -John B. Connally

    Press book

    President’s schedule
         -Charlotte
               -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
               -Television coverage
               -Florida

    Press
            -Haldeman


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            -Administration relations
                                                 26

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                                        Tape Subject Log
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                                                                         Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                  -Patrick J. Buchanan
                  -Ziegler
                  -Edmund S. Muskie
                        -1968 campaign
                  -Instruction to Haldeman
                        -Unknown television book
                              -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                              -William L. Safire
                              -Staff
             -Publicity
                  -Problems
                        -Events
                              -People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiative
                              -Economy
                              -Wedding
                        -Economy
                        -War
                        -Public support
                              -Harry S. Dent
                              -Alabama
                              -PRC
                        -Ziegler
                        -Herbert G. Klein
                        -Herbert C. Hoover
                        -Supporters
                              -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
                        -Solutions
                              -Charles W. Colson

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:06 am.
     Delivery of something

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.

     Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo

     Press
             -Newspaper association publishers
                 -Alaska
                 -Washington
                 -Oregon
                                         27

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                                                                   Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


             -Montana
             -Idaho
             -Utah

The President's schedule
     -Anchorage, Alaska
     -Robert Atwood
          -Reception
     -Hickel reception
     -Atwood reception
          -Importance compared to Hickel’s

Press
        -News magazines
        -Wire services
        -Robert Pierpoint
             -Woodrow Wilson event
        -Wire services
             -Chicago
        -Relations with administration
        -The President's schedule
             -Florida
                   -Advance notice
        -Buchanan
             -Television
             -Columnists
             -News summary
                   -Change of format
             -America
             -Human Events
             -National Review
             -The Reporter
             -T.V. Guide
             -Television
                   -Significance
        -Relations with administration
             -Robert J. Dole
             -Barry M. Goldwater
             -President’s meetings with Senators and Congressmen
                   -Nixon loyalists
             -Loyalists
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                                                                   Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                    -Strategy planning committee
                    -Staff
               -Buchanan
               -Colson
               -Cabinet and sub-cabinet

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:06 am.

     Delivery of something

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.

     George P. Shultz
         -Meeting

     [Pause]

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting
               -Time

     Economics
         -Quadriad session
               -Time
         -Shultz's meeting with the President
         -Phase II
               -Consultation process
                    -Group meetings with the President
                          -Labor
                          -Business
                          -Agricultural
                          -Congressional
                          -Cost of Living Council [COLC] members
               -Speech
               -Consultation process
                    -Price
                    -Shultz
                    -Connally
                    -Price
                    -Arthur F. Burns
                    -Shultz
                                        29

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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


               -Connally
         -Group meetings
               -Cabinet
               -COLC
                     -Size
               -Time
               -Price
                     -Speech
                           -Paragraph
                           -Contact with groups
                     -Shultz
               -Virginia H. Knauer
                     -Consumer groups
               -Vice president
                     -Governors and mayors
               -Labor, business, agriculture, Congress
     -Congress
         -Mansfield's letter

The President's schedule
     -Connally
     -Afternoon events
     -Evening events
     -November
     -Weather
     -Cabinet meeting
     -Church services
          -Graham's mother
          -Minister
                 -Chattanooga, Tennessee
          -October 10 and November 21, 1971

President’s address to Congress on economic stabilization, September 9, 1971
     -Copy
           -Press
     -Rogers
     -Announcement
           -September 7, 1971

Vietnam
     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                                          30

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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                            Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


        -Henry A. Kissinger
             -Trip to Hanoi
                   -Negotiations
                        -PRC
                        -Problems
                              -Secrecy
                              -Risk of failure
                        -Fertility
                              -Fear of trap
                        -North Vietnam
                              -Tactics
                              -Pham Van Dong
        -Troop withdrawal
             -Announcement
                   -Timing
                        -Television

Trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
      -Press conference announcement
           -October 1971

President's schedule
     -Detroit meeting
            -Timing
            -Economic Club members
                 -Size
                        -Executive board
            -Questions
     -New York Economic Club
     -Detroit
            -Public relations
                 -Automobile industry
                 -Catholic schools example
            -Michigan
                 -Automobile industry

Press
        -Colson
        -Muskie tax proposal
             -Dole
        -Muskie press conference
                                         31

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                                 Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


          -San Francisco
                -Busing comments
                      -Equivocation
                -George W. Romney
     -Busing
          -President’s position
                -Ehrlichman
                -George C. Wallace
                      -Position
                            -Effect on the President
                -Warren E. Burger
                -Shultz

Economic speech
    -Price
          -Talk with Shultz and Connally
          -Peter G. Peterson
          -Quadriad
          -Tax reforms
                -Connally
                -Shultz
          -Technology
                -Ehrlichman

Busing
     -Muskie
         -Position
               -Republican strategy
                    -Democrats
                    -Dent
               -Ambiguity
                    -Press
                    -Romney
               -Republican strategy

President’s schedule
     -Call from Connally
     -Raymond Shafer
           -Marijuana commission
           -Trip to Europe
           -Mitchell
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                            Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


             -Connally
                   -Timing
                        -Japanese cabinet
                        -Call from Haldeman
             -Price

Press
        -John A. Scali
        -Ziegler
        -Colson
        -Buchanan
        -Klein
        -Scali
        -Ziegler
        -Colson
        -Ziegler
              -Reporter level
              -Bureau chief level
              -Klein
              -Press secretary
                    -Role
        -Unknown book
        -Reports
              -For and against the President
        -[Forename unknown] Sanders article
              -Democrats
                    -Congressional Treaty event
                          -Attendance

Dramatic arts
    -Democrats
          -Leonard Bernstein
               -Kennedy Center show [ Mass ]
                    -Treatment of audience
                    -"Jesus Christ Superstar"
                    -"Hair"
                    -Hubert H. Humphrey
                          -Attendance
                    -Pace
                    -Length
                    -Unknown woman
                                          33

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                        -Reception
                        -Kennedy family
                             -Ticket order
                             -Clark MacGregor
                                   -National Cultural Center
                                        -Name change
                             -Ticket order

Congress
    -Mood
         -The President's talk with Colson
         -Price
         -MacGregor

Cabinet
     -Connally

Staff
        -MacGregor
        -Colson
        -Scali
              -Summit with USSR

Press
        -Publicity
             -Trips
                   -PRC
                   -USSR
                   -Significance

Economy

Vietnam
     -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
          -Defense Department
                 -Reported deaths
     -Press story
          -Deaths
                 -Compared to New York City
                 -Hand guns
                      -Ehrlichman
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                                       Conv. No. 274-28 (cont.)


                             -National Rifle Association [NRA]
                             -President’s view
                             -Burger
                             -Gun lobby
                                   -Richard S. Schweicker
                             -President’s view
                                   -Children
                             -President’s and Haldeman’s experiences
                                   -Hancock Park
                             -Rose Mary Woods


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Haldeman left at 11:40 am.