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Start Date: 16-Sep-1971 10:48 AM

End Date: 16-Sep-1971 10:57 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Hébert, F. EdwardKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:11:34

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:35:49

278a.mp3

278b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, F. Edward Hébert, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:48 am to 10:57 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 278-051 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 278-51

Date: September 16, 1971
Time: 10:48 am - 10:57 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with F. Edward Hébert.

[See Conversation No. 9-38]

Henry A. Kissinger was present after 10:50 am.

[End of telephone conversation]

     Hébert
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 278-51 (cont.)


        -Conversation with the President
        -Draft extension bill
             -Votes
        -Mansfield amendment

Draft
        -Importance
        -Strategy
        -The President's opponents
        -Importance of Vietnam
              -Consequences

Vietnam
     -Goals
           -Withdrawal deadlines
     -William P. Rogers
     -Melvin R. Laird
     -Questions on issue of Vietnam election
           -Response
     -Foreign aid
           -Recipients
                -Locations
                -Types of governments, elections
                      -State Department
                      -Comparison to South Vietnam elections
                      -The President's conversation with Haig
                            -Mexico
                            -Colombia
                            -Venezuela
                            -Chile

Chile
        -Future of elections
             -Kissinger’s view

Vietnam
     -Prisoner of war [POW] issue
           -POW wives
           -Deadlines
           -Clark M. Clifford
           -Situation
                                          37

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 278-51 (cont.)


                -Radicals
     -South Vietnamese military operations
          -Laos
          -Effect on North Vietnam
     -Negotiations
          -Position of North Vietnam
                -Response by the US
     -POW issue
          -Effect on negotiations
          -North Vietnamese strategy
          -North Vietnamese POW deadlines
          -Establishment of artificial deadlines in the US
                -The press
                     -Kissinger's conversation with Rowland Evans, September 16, 1971
                           -Evans and Robert D. Novak
     -Micronesia
     -Evans and Novak
          -Focus on Forthcoming People’s Republic of China [PRC], Soviet Union
                summits

Foreign relations
     -The President's accomplishments
           -John F. Kennedy comparison
           -PRC opening
           -International Monetary Fund [IMF]
           -Soviet Union summit
           -Deadline issue
                 -Stance

Attica prison riots
      -Killings
      -Hostages
            -Nelson A. Rockefeller's position on issue
                  -Prison
                  -Press conference
      -Public response
      -President’s call to Pierre E. Trudeau

Media
    -Tendencies
         -Forthcoming book
                                              38

                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 278-51 (cont.)


                 -Vanderbilt University study of news coverage
                 -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                      -PRC
                      -Cambodian action
                            -Laos
                            -Perceptions

     Vietnam
          -Suggested statement on position
          -Leaks
               -Forthcoming National Security Council [NSC] meeting

Kissinger left at 11:15 am.