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Start Date: 22-Sep-1971 10:03 AM

End Date: 22-Sep-1971 10:52 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:14:20

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:00:20

279a.mp3

279b.mp3

279c.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:03 am to 10:52 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 279-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 279-2

Date: September 22, 1971
Time: 10:03 am - 10:52 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     The People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Internal politics
                -Memorandum
                      -Summary
                -Mao Tse-tung
                      -Reports of death
                             -Denials
                                   -PRC embassy in Paris, France
                                   -PRC embassy in Ottawa, Canada
                -News Summary
                      -Chou En-lai
                             -Cancellation of event
                -Announcement
                      -Visit of PRC Foreign Trade Minister
                             -Paris
                      -Chou En-lai
                      -Schedule
                -Mao
                      -Last public Appearance
                -Possibilities
                -Mao’s health
                                                  3

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 40s ]


     PRC


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           -President’s forthcoming statements
                 -Question and Answer Period
                      -September 23, 1971
                             -Detroit, Michigan
                 -PRC
                      -Long-range plans

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:03 am.

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 10:52 am.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[National Security]
[Duration: 31s ]


     PRC


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)



          -Events in the PRC
               -Public articles against group
                      -Cultural revolution
                           -Leaders
                                  -Politburo
                                  -Ch'en Po-ta
                                  -K'ang Shen
                                        -Last public appearances
          -Japanese News Service
               -Hong Kong
               -Preparations
                      -October 1 celebration


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[National Security]
[Duration: 35s ]


    PRC


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10

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    Supreme Court
         -Resignations
               -Hugo L. Black
               -John M. Harlan
         -Presidential appointment to Supreme Court
               -Number
         -Potter N. Stewart
         -William O. Douglas
               -Health

    PRC
                                         5

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


     -The President's forthcoming trip to the PRC
     -Edwin O. Reischauer
          -News summary
          -Normalizing relations with the PRC
          -Reischauer's wife
     -Japanese
          -US-PRC Summit
     -Reischauer
          -Ambassador to Japan
     -Japanese
     -China experts, left-wingers

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
    -Announcement of Soviet summit
    -Kremlinologists
    -Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen
          -Establishment
    -Llewellyn E. Thompson, Jr.
          -Soviets
    -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
    -Announcement of Summit
          -The President's call to Thompson, Bohlen
    -Soviet Summit
    -Calls
          -United Nations [UN]
                -Alexei N. Kosygin
    -Soviets
    -Public
    -Meeting with Kosygin
          -Lyndon B. Johnson's Glassboro Summit
          -Planning
                -Meeting with PRC
                     -Timing
    -The President's conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
          -William P. Rogers
          -Kissinger
          -Gromyko
                -Handling
    -Rogers
          -Soviet Summit
                -Reaction to announcement
                                         6

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


          -Kissinger
          -Rogers
          -Sharing in Administration successes

Vietnam
     -US press article
           -US senators
                 -Nguyen Van Thieu
                       -Elections
     -South Vietnam elections
     -Cable from Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
           -Ellsworth F. Bunker
           -Domestic situation in Vietnam
     -The press
           -Appraisal of situation in Vietnam
     -The President's press conference
           -Effect
     -Haig
           -Effect of air strikes
     -Kissinger's conversation with Haig
     -North Vietnam
           -Press conference in Paris
     -US action
           -William J. Porter
           -Viet Cong
                 -Prisoner of War [POW] issue
           -US position
                 -Officials from South Vietnam
           -POW issue
           -Saigon
     -Haig
     -Bunker
           -US embassy in Saigon
                 -Staff
           -Situation in Vietnam
     -Air strike
           -North Vietnam
           -Effect on morale
                 -Haig
                       -US morale
                 -Another air strike
                                       7

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


     -North Vietnam
          -Press conference

Air strikes
      -North Vietnam
      -Demilitarized Zone [DMZ]
            -Range
      -Effect on morale

Nguyen Cao Ky
    -Possible meeting with Haig
    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Kissinger's schedule
     -Meeting with William Randolph Hearst
     -Eugene S. McCarthy
     -Edmund S. Muskie
     -Meeting with John B. Connally, George P. Shultz, W. Paul McCracken

Vietnam
     -Air strikes
     -Need for time
     -US troop withdrawal announcement
     -Draftees announcement
     -Military opinion
     -Timing of announcement
           -Announcement of new economic measures
                 -Pressure
     -North Vietnam
     -US troop withdrawal
           -Announcement
                 -Combat troops
           -Draftees
           -Speculation
           -Date
           -Purpose of announcement
           -Dates of future announcement
                 -Number of troops
     -Congress
     -Final announcement
           -State of the Union Address
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)



    USSR
        -Reaction
             -Deadline
                  -Date

    Polls
            -Changes in figures
            -US election
            -The President's trips to the PRC, to the USSR
                 -Effect on the President's standing in polls
            -Public
            -Economy

    Foreign economic policy
         -Connally
              -Meeting with Kissinger
              -Shultz
              -Trade agreements
                   -General statement
                         -William F. Rhatican
         -Forthcoming meeting at Camp David
              -Time
              -Connally


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 43 ]


    EUROPEAN AFFAIRS


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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


-The President's remarks on international economic issues in Detroit, Michigan,
     September 23, 1971
     -Reiteration
           -Strong US
                  -Economically
                        -International compared to Isolationist outlook
           -Weak US
                  -Inflation
     -Paul Hoffman
           -Unified world
                  -Politically
                  -Economically
                        -East-West trade
                        -Economic interests
     -Marshall Plan
           -Effects on Europe
           -Present-day situation in Europe
           -Hoffman
           -Trade between Great Britain and West Germany
                  -World War I
                  -World War II
-Proposal
     -Connally
     -Shultz
     -International Monetary Fund [IMF]
           -The President's remarks in Detroit
                  -IMF
                  -US position
-Kissinger's forthcoming meeting
     -Connally
           -Statements
-Arthur F. Burns
     -Possible calls from the President and Connally
     -The President's previous conversations with Burns
-Kissinger's conversation with Haldeman
     -Cabinet meeting
     -Meeting with Burns, Connally
           -Date
-Kissinger's conversation with Peter G. Peterson
     -Peterson's memorandum to the President
           -Kissinger as co-signer
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


                    -Establishment of a new group
                    -Meetings
         -Peterson
               -International monetary issues
                     -US position
               -Knowledge of bureaucracy
               -Responsibilities to the President

    Kissinger's schedule
         -Meetings about US-Japanese trade relations
         -The President's meeting with Burns [?]

    Textile negotiations
         -Rogers
               -Takeo Fukuda
         -View of American textile producers
         -Timing
               -Public announcement
                     -Date
                           -Successful negotiations
         -Japanese emissary to negotiations
         -Date
         -Negotiations
         -Japan


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 29s ]


    JAPAN


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         -Reaction of the PRC to agreement
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


               -Chou En-lai
                    -Opposition
         -State Department
               -Involvement
               -PRC initiative
               -Kissinger's conversation with Rogers
               -Japanese press
                    -Relations with the US


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
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[Duration: 15s ]


    TAIWAN


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         -Rogers
               -State Department
                     -Staff
                           -Views
                                -Frustration
         -State Department
               -Loyalty to the President
         -Statement drafted for the President
               -Appearance in Detroit, Michigan, September 23

    Vietnam
         -Congress
              -Senate
                    -South Vietnam election
                         -Nguyen Van Thieu
                         -Final report
         -Elections
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                        Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


          -Thieu
     -Negotiations
     -Haig
          -Ky
                 -Thieu
                 -Political plans
     -Thieu
          -Relations with the US
                 -Ky
     -Ky
          -Possible defeat of Thieu
     -Cambodia
     -South Vietnamese
     -Negotiations
     -Laos
          -Winter campaign
                 -Military success
                       -Plain of jars
     -Cambodia
          -Military success
                 -Supplies
                       -Transportation
     -Daily reports
          -Guns, mortars, rice captured
     -US domestic situation
          -Media
          -Press
          -Backgrounders
          -Report
          -Gen. John W. Vogt, Jr.
     -Public relations campaign about Vietnam
          -Announcement of Vietnamization process

Announcement (USSR Summit)
    -Time and date
    -The President's schedule
          -Press conference
          -Telephone
    -Kissinger's backgrounder
    -State Department
          -PRC
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


         -US
         -USSR
     -Gromyko

Meeting
     -Location
          -Historic significance
     -Rogers
          -Dobrynin
     -Dobrynin’s meeting with Kissinger
          -Kissinger
          -Rogers
     -Gromyko's meeting with the President
     -Location of previous meeting between the President and Gromyko
          -Subject of meeting
     -Rogers
          -PRC

State Department
      -Staff
      -Rogers
      -The President's administration
            -Relations with State Department
      -Liberals
      -Credit
      -Press stories
            -Hugh S. Sidey
                  -Trip to Asia
                  -Reaction
            -Relations with Japan
                  -PRC trip

Fidel Castro
      -Private interview with Canadian reporter
            -PRC initiative
                  -Significance

State Department
      -Reischauer
      -Objections to the President's administration
           -Substance
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


              -Power
              -Comparison with Nixon's demeanor while out of office
         -John F. Kennedy
              -PRC
              -Hong Kong
              -Press

    Textile negotiations
         -Public opinion
               -Japanese
                     -Pearl Harbor


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[National Security]
[Duration: 18s ]


    JAPAN


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         -Japanese emissary
         -The President's conversation with Fukuda
              -Date of agreement
         -Importance
         -Kissinger's meeting with Nobusuke Kishi
         -Relations between Japan and the US
         -Negotiations

    Connally
        -Working relationship
        -Compared with other Cabinet members
        -Democrats
        -Loyalty to the administration
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 279-2 (cont.)


                 -The President
                 -The US
                      -Domestic situation
                      -Need for authority
                 -Dissension within the administration
                      -Harmful public image
                      -Opinion about the President's administration
                            -The press
                                 -Credit due to the President

Kissinger left at 10:52 am.