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Start Date: 20-Oct-1971 4:23 PM

End Date: 20-Oct-1971 5:16 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Moore, Richard A.White House operatorMitchell, John N.Butterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:25:31

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:15:31

282a.mp3

282b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Richard A. Moore, White House operator, John N. Mitchell, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:23 pm to 5:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 282-026 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 282-26

Date: October 20, 1971
Time: 4:23 pm - 5:16 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Richard A. Moore.

     Greetings

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Leaks
               -White House staff
               -American Bar Association [ABA]
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 282-25 (cont.)


                    -Mildred L. Lillie
                    -John N. Mitchell
                    -Women candidates
                         -Qualifications
                         -Public reaction
         -Lewis F. Powell
             -Age
             -Qualifications
             -Southern background
         -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
             -Qualifications
                    -Law background
                    -Senate
                    -Age


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         -Supreme Court Justices
               -Finances
                    -William O. Douglas
                    -Outside income
         -Baker
               -Age
                    -Possible tenure
               -Contrasted with Potter Stewart
         -William H. Mulligan
               -Background qualifications
                    -New York
                    -Dean of Fordham Law School
                    -ABA
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                    Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)


-Powell
      -ABA's reaction
            -Mulligan
-ABA
-Mulligan
      -Powell
-Moore's conversation with Mitchell
      -Analysis of candidates
            -Herschel H. Friday
            -Lillie
      -Tennessee
            -Baker
            -Civil rights
      -Congressional approval
-ABA
      -Ronald L. Ziegler
      -Press
      -Role in appointment process
      -Powell
      -Ziegler
-Powell
-Mulligan
      -Reaction by people in New York
      -Fordham Law School
      -Experience
      -Mitchell
      -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy
      -Qualifications
      -Powell
-Powell
-Baker
-William French Smith
      -Qualifications
            -Experience
      -John M. Harlan
            -Corporate law
      -California
      -Wife
            -Kansas City, 1968
-Powell and Smith
-William H. Rehnquist
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)


               -Qualifications
                     -Possible ABA reaction
               -Department of Justice position
               -Stanford Law School
               -Robert H. Jackson
               -Department of Justice position
               -ABA
               -Mitchell’s view
               -John W. Dean, III
               -Arizona
               -Barry M. Goldwater
               -Stanford
          -Smith
               -Harvard
          -Rehnquist

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 4:21 pm and 4:44
pm.

[Conversation No. 282-26A]

[See Conversation No. 12-12]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Rehnquist
               -Age
               -Jackson
          -Department of Justice position
               -Compared with Byron R. ("Whizzer") White

The President talked with John N. Mitchell between 4:44 pm and 4:49 pm.

[Conversation No. 282-26B]

[See Conversation No. 12-13]

[End of telephone conversation]

          -Powell
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)


      -Age
      -Length of term
      -Warren E. Burger
-Leaks
      -John D. Ehrlichman
      -White House staff
-Previous mistakes
-Rehnquist
-Qualifications of candidates
      -New Jersey
      -Illinois
      -Mulligan
      -Smith, Rehnquist
      -Baker
            -Leonard Garment
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-Mulligan
      -Experience
-William J. Brennan, Douglas
-Powell and Baker
      -South
            -J. Strom Thurmond
            -Virginia, Tennessee
            -Busing issue
-Powell
-Baker
-Rehnquist
-Smith
      -Ronald W. Reagan
-Powell
-Mitchell's forthcoming conversation with Lawrence E. Walsh
      -Lillie
-Lillie
      -Earl Adams’ opinion
-Possible appointment scenario
-Powell
-Baker
-Women
      -The President's instructions to Mitchell
      -Sylvia Bacon
            -Circuit Court
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)


              -Law schools
         -Television announcement
              -Advantages compared with press conference
              -Contents of announcement
                    -Qualifications of appointments
                         -The President's philosophy
                                -Powell
                                -Rehnquist
                                      -Jackson
         -Jackson
              -Previous letter to the President
                    -David Capers [sp?]
              -Career
                    -Nuremberg trials
                    -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                    -Background

    Newsday articles
        -Moore’s view
        -Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo
        -Possible legal action
              -Moore’s view
        -Time magazine
        -Robert G. ("Bobby") Baker
        -The President's finances
              -Possible Ehrlichman statement
              -Law firm
              -Fisher Island stocks
                    -Sale
                    -Moore
                    -Sale
                    -Ehrlichman
        -Rebozo


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[Duration: 15s ]
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                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)



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           -The President's finances
                -Real estate

     The President's schedule

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 5:05 pm.

     Items for the President's signature
     Forthcoming White House event
          -Guest list
                 -Frank Shakespeare
                 -Donald M. Kendall

Butterfield left at 5:07 pm.

     Newsday articles
         -Rebozo

     Vietnam
          -Announcement
               -Prisoners of war [POWs]
          -Michael J. Mansfield amendment
               -POW issue
          -Possible bombing
          -People’s Republic of China [PRC] summit
          -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] summit
          -Mary McGrory’s article
               -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -William P. Rogers

     Supreme Court nominees
          -Robert C. Byrd
                -Democrats
          -Lillie
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 282-26 (cont.)


                -Edmund G. ("Pat") Brown
           -Smith
                -Academic background

Moore left at 5:16 pm.