Conversation No. 291-11

Date: October 18, 1971
Time: 3:47 pm - 5:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

John D. Ehrlichman met with John N. Mitchell.

     Supreme Court nominations

     Media

     Herschel H. Friday
          -Washington Post
               -Dick Wilson
               -John W. Dean, III
               -Investigation
               -Financial statement

The President entered at an unknown time after 3:47 pm.

     Supreme Court nominations
          -Warren E. Burger
               -Tenure on Court
               -Health
               -Conversation with Mitchell
               -Health
          -Mitchell’s conversation with Lawrence E. Walsh
               -Forthcoming American Bar Association [ABA] meeting
               -Mildred L. Lillie
                     -ABA’s view
               -Possibility of woman appointee
               -Sylvia Bacon
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                -Superior Court
          -Lillie
                -Stanley N. Barnes
                -Philip Burton
                -ABA’s view
          -Friday and Lillie
                -Mitchell’s position
                      -ABA’s decision
          -Assessment of candidates
                -Oliver Wendell Holmes
                -Louis D. Brandeis
                      -Dissents
          -Lillie's husband
                -Activities
          -Friday
                -Walsh’s view
                -ABA’s view
                      -National recognition
                      -Financial transactions
                      -Editorial, Arkansas paper
                -Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals
                      -Contact with James O. Eastland
                -John L. McClellan''s conversation with Mitchell
                      -Lawrence F. O'Brien
                      -Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
                -Dean of Arkansas law school
          -Walsh
                -Forthcoming meeting with Mitchell
                      -ABA vote
          -Possible woman appointee
                -Sarah T. Hughes
                -Unknown woman in North Carolina

J. Edgar Hoover
     -Ehrlichman
     -Time magazine
           -Newsweek magazine
     -Ehrlichman's views
           -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                -Problems
           -The President's conversation with Hoover
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Ehrlichman left at 4:00 pm.

     Supreme Court nominations
          -Edward H. Levi
          -Lillie
                -Desirability
                -Qualifications
                      -ABA
                      -Women's vote
                -Walsh
          -William French Smith
                -The President’s view
                      -Lillie
                -Qualifications
                      -Chancellor, Chairman Board of Regents University of California
                      -Harvard
                      -Law firm
          -Friday
          -Lewis F. Powell
                -Age
                -Qualifications
                      -ABA
                      -Law school
                -Civil rights record
          -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
                -Robert C. Byrd
                -Mitchell’s view
                      -The President’s view
                -Possible political interests
                -Reference to Baker
                      -Busing
                      -Replacement for Baker appointed by governor
                            -Daniel H. Kuykendall
          -Lillie
                -The President’s view
                -Qualifications
                      -ABA
          -Shirley M. Hufstedler
                -Circuit Court of Appeals, California
                -Husband
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           -Age
           -Walsh's opinion of qualifications
     -Lillie
           -Californians
                 -ABA
           -Earl Warren
           -Earl C. Adams
     -Smith
           -Background
           -Possible appointments’ second term
                 -Attorney general
           -Ronald W. Reagan
           -Chairman Board of Regents
     -ABA
     -Names collection

Cancer
    -Smoking

Supreme Court nominations
     -ABA action
           -Smith
     -Baker
     -William Mulligan
     -Smith
           -Qualifications
     -Charles S. Rhyne
           -Qualifications
           -Age
     -Powell
     -Clement F. Haynsworth and G. Harrold Carswell
     -The President's past appointees
           -Burger
           -Harry A. Blackmun
     -Hugo L. Black
           -Criticism of appointment
     -Walsh
           -Powell
     -Baker
           -Political benefits
     -Friday
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-Baker
      -Legislation background
-Powell
      -Age
      -Burger's opinion
-Baker
-The President’s position
      -ABA
-Experience as qualification
      -Baker
      -Powell
      -Smith
      -Powell
            -Busing issue
                  -The President’s view
-Frank M. Johnson
      -Judicial experience
      -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
      -Mitchell’s view
      -Thurgood Marshall
-Powell
-Smith
-Powell
-Baker [?]
-Walsh
      -Schedule
            -Lillie, Friday
            -Powell
                  -The President’s decision
                  -Burger and Blackmun
-Burger's memorandum to Mitchell
      -Powell
      -Johnson
      -Friday
-Friday
      -ABA
-Powell
      -The President’s position
      -Friday
            -Age
-Smith
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      -John A Sutro, Jr.
      -Powell
      -Clients
            -Law firm
            -Practice
      -Possible leaks
      -Walsh
            -ABA
-Timing
      -The President’s view
-Circuit Court of Appeals vacancies
-Lillie
      -Possible Court appointments
            -Robert W. Packwood
-Role of White House staff
      -Compared with other foreign policies
-The South
      -Politics
      -Powell
      -Burger
-Powell
-Smith
      -ABA
-Lillie
-Friday
-Powell
      -Friday
            -McClellan
            -Winthrop Rockefeller
      -[Forename unknown] Rodgers [sp?]
-Powell
      -The South
            -Conservatives view
                  -Crime
-The President’s view
-Smith and Powell
-Byrd
      -Friday
-ABA
      -Powell and Smith
      -Walsh
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                      -Concern over leaks
          -Burger's views
                -Lillie
                -Friday
          -Powell
                -Mitchell’s view
          -Lillie
          -Role of ABA
                -Future role

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:56
pm.

[Conversation No. 291-11A]

[See Conversation No. 11-109]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Supreme Court nominations
          -Political considerations
                -Importance of Virginia
                      -Compared to Arkansas
          -Powell
                -Political affiliation
          -Walsh
                -Smith
                -Lillie
                -Powell
                -ABA
                -Powell
                -Mitchell’s conversation with Walsh
                -Rosser L. ("Ross") Malone
                -Timing

     The President's schedule
          -John F. Kennedy Center
               -Mitchell
               -J. Willard Marriott

     Hoover
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          -Possible resignation
          -Ehrlichman
          -Possible meeting with the President
                -Tenure in office

The White House operator talked with John N. Mitchell at an unknown time between 4:00 pm
and 4:56 pm.

[Conversation No. 291-11B]

[See Conversation No. 11-110]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Powell
         -Schedule

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:56
pm.

[Conversation No. 291-11C]

[See Conversation No. 11-111]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Mitchell's schedule
          -Powell

     Supreme Court nominations
          -Walsh
               -Forthcoming conversation with Mitchell
                     -ABA
               -Lillie
                     -Possible ABA view

The President talked with Tricia Cox between 4:56 pm and 4:57 pm.

[Conversation No. 291-11D]

[See Conversation No. 11-112; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]
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[End of telephone conversation]

     Hoover
         -Possible meeting with the President
         -Cartha D. (“Deke”) DeLoach
         -Personal staff
              -Role
              -Future

     Supreme Court nominations
          -Powell
          -ABA
          -Lillie
                -Powell
                -Walsh
          -ABA
                -Women in positions of responsibility
                      -Possible judgement on qualifications
          -Powell
                -Health
          -Mitchell's schedule
                -Forthcoming telephone call to Burger
                      -Bernard Steiger [?]
                      -Powell
                            -Friday
                                  -ABA
                                  -Media
                      -Lillie
                            -Smith
                                  -Reagan Republican
                                  -Wife
          -Lillie
          -Walsh

     Mitchell's schedule

Mitchell left at 5:00 pm.
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