Conversation: 294-022
Prev: 294-021 Next: 294-023Start Date: 18-Nov-1971 2:56 PM
End Date: 18-Nov-1971 4:50 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.; Sanchez, Manolo;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:41:30
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:17:41
NARA Description:
On November 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:56 pm to 4:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 294-022 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 294-22
Date: November 18, 1971
Time: 2:56 pm - 4:50 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with George P. Shultz and Manolo Sanchez.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:36 pm.
John B. Connally
-Previous meeting with Shultz
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Upcoming meeting with the Group of Ten
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 2:56 pm.
[Unintelligible]
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:36 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Connally
-Previous meeting with Shultz
-Staff
-Gold
International monetary situation
-Price of gold
-Convertibility
Charles H. Percy
-Previous statement
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Vietnam
Nelson A. Rockefeller
Ronald W. Reagan
-Conversation with the President
-Welfare reform
Rockefeller
-Revenue sharing
Ogilvie
-Previous call to Shultz
-Percy's speech
-House Resolution 1
House Resolution 1
-Percy's efforts
-Shultz's previous conversation with Connally
Congress
-Pending legislation
-Connally's efforts
Ogilvie
-Federal welfare funds
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Congress
-Tax Bill
-Michael J. Mansfield
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 2:56 pm.
Delivery
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:36 pm.
American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
convention
-George Meany's previous speech
-Soviet Union and People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Executive Council's meeting
-Pay Board participation
-The President's forthcoming speech
-Meany's statement on the President's economic program
National economy
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Increase
AFL-CIO convention
-The President's forthcoming speech
-Vietnam
-Meany
-Relations with Lyndon B. Johnson and Dwight D. Eisenhower
-The President's schedule
-Pay Board
Federal Budget
-Manipulation
-Pending tax bill
-Revenue-sharing
-Family assistance
-Value added tax
-Possible role in tax system
-Hubert H. Humphrey's proposal
-Russell B. Long's proposal
-Cost
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
-Herbert Stein
Stein
-Shultz's call to Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes
-White House car
-Possible role with administration
-Shultz's previous conversation with Connally
-Milton Friedman
-Arthur F. Burns
-Paul W. McCracken
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] appointment
-Jews in administration
-Connally's views
-Health
National economy
-Pay Board
-Coal miners
-Retroactivity of contracts
-Shultz's daughter's question
-Possible strike
-Congress
-Effect of freeze
-Previous Wall Street Journal article
-Duration of freeze
-Burns
-Letter to the President regarding his visit to New York
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 2:56 pm and
3:36 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22A]
[See Conversation No. 15-35]
[End of telephone conversation]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Burns
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Contacts
-Pierre-Paul Schweitzer
The President talked with Peter M. Flanigan between 3:36 and 3:42 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22B]
[See Conversation No. 15-36]
[End of telephone conversation]
Fredrick M. Eaton
-Possible role with Administration
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] Ambassadorship
-Requirements
David Kennedy
-Possible role with Administration
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.
The President's schedule
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Kissinger
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:47 pm.
David M. Kennedy
-Possible role with Administration
International monetary situation
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:47 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Pending legislation
National economy
-Money supply
-Burns
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:42 pm and
3:47 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22C]
[See Conversation No. 15-37]
[End of telephone conversation]
National economy
-Money supply
-Burns
-Friedman
-Federal budget for Fiscal Year 1973
The President talked with Charles W. Colson between 3:47 pm and 3:51 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22D]
[See Conversation No. 15-38; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]
Rumsfeld entered at 3:48 pm.
[End of telephone conversation]
The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman between 3:51 pm and an unknown time
before 4:17 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22E]
Colson
The President's schedule
[End of telephone conversation]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
National economy
-Pay Board
-Retroactivity of contracts
-Pending legislation
-Pending legislation
-Clark MacGregor's views
Congress
-Authority vis-a-vis the President
-Washington Post article
National economy
-Rumsfeld's deputy
-Frank C. Carlucci
-Requirements
-The President's program
-C. Jackson Grayson and George H. Boldt
-Pay Board and Price Commission
-Relations
-Rumsfeld's activities
-Staffs' activities
-Effects
-Exemptions
-Cost of Living Council
-Activities
-Virginia H. Knauer
-Connally
-Telegram from Jewel Tea Company
-Activities
The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:51 pm and 4:17
pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22F]
[Unintelligible]
[End of telephone conversation]
National economy
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
-The President's schedule
-The President's program
-Foreign policy
-Cost of Living Council
-Role
-Rumsfeld's conversation with Dick [Surname unknown] [Richard Ogilvie?]
Ogilvie
-Welfare reform
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-Possible role with administration
-Judicial appointment
-Mitchell
-Confirmation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:51 pm and 4:17
pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22G]
The President's schedule
-Mitchell
-Subway in Washington, DC
-Daniel P. Moynihan
-Joel T. Broyhill
[End of telephone conversation]
District of Columbia
-Home Rule
-Subway
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:51 pm and
4:17 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22H]
[See Conversation No. 15-39]
[End of telephone conversation]
National economy
-The President's program
-Effect
-Duration
The President talked with John B. Connally between 4:17 pm and 4:24 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22I]
[See Conversation No. 15-40]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-Kissinger and Mitchell
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
National economy
The President talked with an unknown person in Kissinger's office at an unknown time between
4:24 pm and 4:34 pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22J]
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
[End of telephone conversation]
National economy
-The President's program
-Inflation
-Rent Board
-Thomas B. Curtis
-Rent controls
-Paris
-Curtis
-Democrats' actions
-Tax cut
-Labor unions
-Shultz's conversation with Willie J. Usery
-Usery's speech in St. Louis in 1960
-Connally's views
-Public perceptions of Administration's policy towards labor unions
Supreme Court
-William H. Rehnquist and Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
National economy
-The President's program
-Pay Board
-George Meany
-Business's reaction
-Stein's views
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 4:24 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Kissinger's schedule
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:34 pm.
The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 4:24 pm and 4:34
pm.
[Conversation No. 294-22K]
The President's schedule
-Mitchell
[End of telephone conversation]
National economy
-The President's program
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 4:34 pm.
The President's schedule
Kissinger's schedule
-Prisoner of war [POW] wives
The President's schedule
-Mitchell and Rumsfeld
Shultz and Rumsfeld left at 4:35 pm.
Vietnam
-Military dispositions
-North Vietnamese Army
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:35 pm.
The President's schedule
-Rumsfeld
-Mitchell
-Broyhill
Bull left at an unknown time before 4:50 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)
Vietnam
-Military dispositions
-North Vietnamese Army
-Bombing
-Timing
-People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-The President’s decision
-Thomas H. Moorer
-Possible effect
-PRC, Soviet Union
-Le Duc Tho's possible actions
-Negotiations
-William J. Porter's statement
-Le Duc Tho's schedule
-Bombing
-Possible effect
-Kissinger’s view
-PRC and the Soviet Union
-Timing
-Possible effect
-The President’s view
-PRC trip
-Timing
Soviet Union
-William P. Rogers's statement
-Mitchell
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Yitzhak Rabin
Connally's schedule
-Press conference
Kissinger's conversation with an unknown man
The President's schedule
-Press conference
-Time
Kissinger left at 4:50 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 294-22 (cont.)